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Would You Let a Robot Lawyer Defend You?
BBC ^ | 8/16 | Padraig Belton

Posted on 08/17/2021 11:01:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Could your next lawyer be a robot? It sounds far fetched, but artificial intelligence (AI) software systems - computer programs that can update and "think" by themselves - are increasingly being used by the legal community.

Joshua Browder describes his app DoNotPay as "the world's first robot lawyer".

It helps users draft legal letters. You tell its chatbot what your problem is, such as appealing against a parking fine, and it will suggest what it thinks is the best legal language to use.

"People can type in their side of an argument using their own words, and software with a machine learning model matches that with a legally correct way of saying it," he says.

The 24-year-old and his company are based in Silicon Valley in California, but the firm's origins go back to London in 2015, when Mr Browder was 18.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: law; robots; technology
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1 posted on 08/17/2021 11:01:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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"now i'm just a simple country robot lawyer"
2 posted on 08/17/2021 11:02:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Nope.


3 posted on 08/17/2021 11:04:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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I want a robot as my Congress-critter.

They would represent me far better than the Democrat dirtball there now...


4 posted on 08/17/2021 11:05:03 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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Want the last human lawyer left, if need be...
5 posted on 08/17/2021 11:05:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Might be better than a public defender pretender
6 posted on 08/17/2021 11:06:24 AM PDT by Pollard
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Most lawyers are Robots. They played the same game, filed the same motions, made the same arguments, dealt with the same lawyers and judges over and over. They all know the outcome (or very close to it) months in advance and just go though the motions for the client.

In all honesty, if laws were written logically, not open to interpretation and evaluated by a fair and open source algorithm, I would be in favor of this. Honestly hopes this happens one day and puts a lot of corrupt lawyers out of business. Right Jamie?
7 posted on 08/17/2021 11:08:38 AM PDT by RBW in PA
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Actually, I like the idea. It might be a great way to get a competent, thoroughly knowledgeable, and effective attorney.


8 posted on 08/17/2021 11:12:23 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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People think automation will replace burger flippers at McDonald’s. And that will happen.

But a lot of “good” white-collar jobs are going to disappear as well.


9 posted on 08/17/2021 11:18:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We have two Democrat parties. 50% of the US population has no political representation.)
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If it’s a Jewish robot, for sure:-)


10 posted on 08/17/2021 11:20:17 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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They’d be good at the wrote stuff. Excellent public defenders. But they wouldn’t be good at the serious jury manipulation stuff that makes a good high priced lawyer. No robot would come up with “if it doesn’t fit you must acquit”.


11 posted on 08/17/2021 11:21:17 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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Ultimately all AI from simple multilayer perceptrons to large neural networks
are ultra-high degrees-of-freedom pattern detectors. A suitably trained
network filled with all known/published case law, doctrines, strategies
would conceivably be able to predict the outcome(s) of a hypothetical legal
scenario with a high degree of confidence, and the optimal strategy. The
ultimate legal clerk on steroids, but being REPRESENTED by an algorithm is
another matter. I’d first ask the AI what my legal odds were if I used AI
representation and watch its circuits overheat.


12 posted on 08/17/2021 11:23:20 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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No robot, no AI can think. They do a rudimentary simulation of thinking. Everything in them is programmed, even the ability to step somewhat out of the strictly linear mode of reasoning.

AI is best used as an AID to the human. The human’s thinking mode is holistic when needed, linear when required, and is influenced by emotion or the preservation of self. The self is constantly juggling the three to achieve what is known as the human mind.

No robot lawyers, please.


13 posted on 08/17/2021 11:26:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (We have more to fear from our government than from the bug that the chicoms made for us. )
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would it have a lawyers ethics?


14 posted on 08/17/2021 11:30:55 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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the robot is programmed by dominion voting systems

and is connected to the internet

and can be hacked


15 posted on 08/17/2021 11:32:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Depends; would a robot lawyer double bill me?


16 posted on 08/17/2021 11:32:45 AM PDT by DPMD
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It always seemed to me that the law could be interpreted like a programming language, with strict logic and Boolean Algebra.

"We at the Law Offices of Asimov and Associates are here to defend your case to the fullest extent of logic."


17 posted on 08/17/2021 11:41:18 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Harpotoo

“If it’s a Jewish robot, for sure:-”

A Jewbot?


18 posted on 08/17/2021 11:57:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I got the shot. Not because I wanted to. Because I had to, in violation of my civil rights.)
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We already have/make those. They are called jewish dem voters:-)
Hey I can say these things as I’m Jewish.
You know like that friendly word blacks call each other:-)


19 posted on 08/17/2021 12:13:26 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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Will the Robot still extra-bill me out of spite if I call for a status update? ;)


20 posted on 08/17/2021 12:48:28 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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