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Afghanistan proves our failed generals no longer care about winning
NY Post ^ | August 21, 2021 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 08/23/2021 6:49:51 AM PDT by george76

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To: george76

“In World War I, the American Commander “Black Jack” Pershing ignored British and French insistence that his men serve in a supporting role. “

They wanted then to be used as replacements piecemeal to serve under they abysmal British and French generals.


21 posted on 08/23/2021 7:41:01 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: larrytown

Utterly immoral, and not supported by the facts. The experienced British generals gave us late 1917 Ypres and other battles such as Flanders in 1918 that killed well over a quarter million allies at a whack while barely changing the lines from 1915.

British Generals “experience” was feeding soldiers into a meat grinder and being feted as heroes.


22 posted on 08/23/2021 7:50:33 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: DesertRhino

You’re speaking of ‘generals’, and I’m talking about where the troops were deployed at - ie., integrated with experienced UNITS, and being able to take advantage of that knowledge.

Glorification of generals is a bad habit that has yielded no benefit and endless misery. The only reason they’re ‘feted as heroes’ is because they ended up on the ‘winning side’.


23 posted on 08/23/2021 8:25:38 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: george76

Many years ago I worked at the Pentagon in Communications.
Way too many self important “generals” even then.
Worthless lot and I am sure there are more of the stoopids now.


24 posted on 08/23/2021 8:26:51 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Dementia Joe and the Whore, leaders of the Free world.)
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To: george76

“During the Civil War, Lincoln cycled through general after general until he found Ulysses S. Grant, who frequently rejected his commander in chief’s tactical suggestions, for which Lincoln was ultimately grateful.”

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Huge difference though...Lincoln wanted people who WOULD fight. All of the administrations from Bush jr. forward were more concerned with policing than a ruthless subjugation of the Taliban.

For the record I did not (nor do) support a nation building project in Afghanistan, but it should have been used temporarily as a platform to kill Bin-Laden and nothing else. We spent 20 years there because we thought we could put it on the path to becoming post-war Germany or Japan....utter foolishness.


25 posted on 08/23/2021 8:36:15 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: george76

They are all woke, all the time. Men without chests.


26 posted on 08/23/2021 9:04:16 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: george76

Most people operating in bureaucracies will do what they have to
do to KEEP their jobs, not necessarily properly DO their jobs.


27 posted on 08/23/2021 9:22:15 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: george76

It’s not that they don’t care it’s that they don’t know how!


28 posted on 08/23/2021 9:53:31 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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By contrast, the Failure Generals in Iraq and Afghanistan such as David Petraeus, Jim Mattis, Stanley McChrystal, and Mark Milley .. have consistently failed ... fretting about “white rage” in the ranks.

Maybe the losers are worried white people are smart enough to see them for what they are...

29 posted on 08/23/2021 10:47:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (Iran, China, North Korea and Pakistan are reverse engineering captured AMERICAN weapons as we type.)
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To: george76
This is bullchit. American Generals do care and are winning. It's just that you don't like the side the are winning for because it is not the American side.
30 posted on 08/23/2021 10:57:43 AM PDT by Badboo (You know in your bones America is dying. The Uniparty isn't going to stop ‘till the carcass rots.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

So, once we announced we were pulling out, the US contractors got out,


More than that, they were blocked by our government, so they got out.


31 posted on 08/23/2021 11:41:03 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Yes, the Afghan military begged the US not to pull the contractors or to conduct emergency training for their own personnel.

Biden refused.


32 posted on 08/23/2021 11:43:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: lepton

Yes, the Afghan military begged the US not to pull the contractors or to conduct emergency training for their own personnel.

Biden refused.


33 posted on 08/23/2021 11:43:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: Erik Latranyi

In essence, we grounded the Afghan Air Force, leaving the Afghan Army with no air cover


An Army that had been trained in a way that required the air cover, and a variety of other assets in order to operate. It’s like guarding a camp and suddenly and silently removing the guard on the other half of the camp - you’re worse off than you’d be if you knew they weren’t there or if they’d never been there.


34 posted on 08/23/2021 11:43:41 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: cpdiii

Well no. Even they thought it would take more than 11 days - though they were probably not taking into account all of the different ways the Biden Administration had us undercut the Afghanis.


35 posted on 08/23/2021 11:46:02 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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"Just last month, Milley was airily dismissing reports of an imminent Taliban victory in Afghanistan,"

America would be better served by replacing Milley with General Mills. At least Mills is smart enough to know he won't find any Lucky Charms in a pack of Froot Loops.
36 posted on 08/23/2021 2:34:10 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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Damn Gen Hank Taylor won’t give us the number of AMERICANS WHO GOT OUT....

Just how many ‘people’... meaning afghans...

Hopefully a few Americans got out.


37 posted on 08/25/2021 7:41:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Iran, China, North Korea and Pakistan are reverse engineering captured weapons as we type.)
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