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Afghanistan Was A Bipartisan Disaster, And We Must React Accordingly
The Federalist ^ | September 7, 2021 | Christopher Bedford

Posted on 09/07/2021 1:12:12 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Funny thing, It sounded like Trump had a pretty sound plan to pull out. It sounded to me like Trump and our allies were on track together. It sounded to me like Trump was timing his pull out during Ramadan when the Mooselimbs were kinda busy.
Naaa, this is Biden's cockup. Biden's and his Peacock(up) Generals.
21 posted on 09/07/2021 1:40:13 PM PDT by Tupelo
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To: Tupelo

Biden and the joint chiefs are busy men stamping out white supremacists and white rage.


22 posted on 09/07/2021 1:42:21 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Kaslin

Bipartisan??? Bullflop!


23 posted on 09/07/2021 1:49:08 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Kaslin
Afghanistan Was A Bipartisan Disaster, And We Must React Accordingly

Yes, we should.


24 posted on 09/07/2021 1:51:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (I won't get vaxxed because it endangers Mitt Romney's life. )
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To: Tupelo

I am Trump’s biggest fan, but this author’s criticism of Trump is legitimate. By the time he was inaugurated in 2017, the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan was already longer than our involvement in both world wars and Vietnam COMBINED. One of the few black marks on Trump’s presidency was that he went through an entire four-year term in office without shutting that fiasco down and getting all U.S. military personnel out of that wretched dump.


25 posted on 09/07/2021 2:08:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: V_TWIN

Republicans come in all stripes, and some are indistinguishable from a wild-eyed Democrat fanatic. So in a way, the blame can be laid to “bipartisan” culprits.

But there are many of us, just barely identified with Republicans of the DC variety, and some not even mustering all that much enthusiasm for the Republican party as a whole, who have not been and never intend to be associated with Democrats who intentionally SURRENDER to a foreign adversary. That way lies madness.


26 posted on 09/07/2021 2:19:15 PM PDT by alloysteel ( Poor people give rich people all their money anyway. Just as they have always done.)
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To: Kaslin

President Retard was in charge of the botched withdrawal and his horrendous decisions cost lives.

Just suck it up and admit it. You’ll feel better.


27 posted on 09/07/2021 2:19:47 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: Kaslin

There were different errors of different significance made by GWBush, Obama, Trump and Biden, with some errors corrected and some allowed to languish and continue, initially and in succeeding administrations.

The one giant error was the elephant that was always in the room - Pakistan, and which no administration was willing to really tackle in all its significance. Even as late as July 2020 that elephant was present, and it was mentioned in the July 23rd phone conversation between Biden and the President of Afghanistan. The Afghan president told Biden, directly, that “we are under a massive invasion” and “it has direct support in operations and material from Pakistan” and “includes 10 to 15 thousand foreign terrorists, predominately from Pakistan”. Treacherous Biden had ZERO to say about that in response to the Afghan President, and our “media” as been as silent about it as Biden.

Ignoring that elephant was a major error in every administration, and yet Obama was the first to have direct cause to expose it and alter U.S. course about it when Osama Bin Laden was found hiding in plain sight right near the Pakistan military compound in Abbottabad. The deep state has continued to cover for Pakistan on that score.

Obama was also the first to have the possibility of U.S. withdrawal, at a time when the Taliban was at their lowest point and the Afghan government the most secure since the U.S. invasion. And that was in 2014. Obama blew past that possibility just as in opposite fashion he drew down the U.S. mission in Iraq too quickly, which was readily taken advantage of by ISIS - which at one point controlled more of Iraq than the Iraqi government.

To me Trump erred in making a private U.S.-Taliban deal that excluded the participation of the Afghan government. Nothing said to the Afghan soldiers in the field that they could not depend on their own leaders more than seeing their leaders could not depend on the U.S. to even include them in talks with the Taliban. THAT appeared mto the Afghan government soldiers to say that “the war” was a “U.S.-Taliban” contest and not even about them; though 70,000 of them had died believing it was about them.

But contrary to all Biden’s lies he was under no legal or moral obligation to follow Trump’s private deal with the Taliban, nor to set or keep to any timeline he did not himself want to do.

Biden has also hidden well, via his media friends, that it was all his own withdrawal plan, not Trump’s and not what the Taliban had agreed to. Trumps plan was conditional on success of peace negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan government, secession of Taliban offensives, benchmarks on those things and our timeline dependent on them, with Trump’s May 2021 date not written in stone if the conditions agreed to with the Taliban were not met. By early 2020 we had all of 2,500 troops left in Afghanistan, had not had a troop death there in nearly a year, and our missions were not “boots” on the ground but in air support and intelligence, both humit and electronic. 1. We could have continued that significant role, which was not at fantastic cost, as long as we chose and 2. when we pulled out of that role closing Bagram it pulled the rug out from under the Afghan troops in the field. [We had tried and failed to get Erdogan’s Turkey, as a NATO partner, to continue the NATO/U.S. role at Bagram, but Erdogan said no.]

The media has also hidden how Biden’s withdrawal was contrary to conditions laid down in the Defense Authorization Act that Congress passed, over Trump’s veto, in December 2020. That law contained an amendment that put restrictions and conditions on any U.S. President’s decision to withdraw any U.S. Troops from Germany, South Korea or Afghanistan. Biden did not even attempt to meet the legal requirements of that law in his Afghan withdrawal operations. And of course, though she could very well do it, Nancy Pelosi is not going to run an impeachment panel against Biden for his disregard of a law Pelosi herself backed in the House.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but at the end of the day, the final errors are all Biden’s and both fact and fate place him and his administration with the legacy of the U.S. Afghan exit, no matter who did what before Biden.

Biden, like Obama and other U.S. President’s set their sites too much on their own political legacy interests than on the best interests of the U.S.

Harry Truman did not let his own political legacy interests get in the way of ending the war in the Pacific. He took the burdensome step of using a nuclear first strike in order to avoid a massive U.S.-Japan ground war across all of Japan, with massive troop and civilian collateral damages along with it.

Biden merely surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban, when (a) doing so was not necessary and (b) will not end the Islamist Jihadist war in the Middle East, from the Taliban or any other quarter, regardless of all pretenses to the contrary.

There are no good Islamic Jihadists, no matter how much Biden thinks the U.S. should now partner with the Taliban vis-a-vis ISIS. The real U.S. interest is in letting ISIS and the Taliban have their own contests with each other. Maybe then enough Afghans will tire of both groups, seeing as how they are two peas in a pod.


28 posted on 09/07/2021 2:23:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Kaslin

No.

All of the horrible decisions that were made in the last few weeks and months were made by Biden and his administration and him and his administration alone. No one else contributed to them doing that. Bad decisions in the past that may have been made do not excuse these horrible decisions made in the present as though it left Biden no choice but to lead us into this disaster.


29 posted on 09/07/2021 2:31:08 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Nateman

If you didn’t read the article than how do you know what what the author wrote?


30 posted on 09/07/2021 2:52:04 PM PDT by Kaslin (Joe Biden will never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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To: Kaslin

Bi what? The only Bi in this disaster ends in ‘den’


31 posted on 09/07/2021 3:01:16 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Kaslin

Thinking Christopher Bedford sounded like just another lefty, I looked him up. He’s not and has quite a number of right leaning articles he’s written.

That said, he’s trying to establish moral equivalency between the Chief Idiot Biden and Republican policy over the decades and there is none. Joe Stolen Biden is SINGULARLY responsible for putting a forever STAMP OF DISASTER on Afghanistan. Bedford needs to get a few more years on him.


32 posted on 09/07/2021 3:06:08 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Kaslin
This is not a bipartisan failure. Trump's withdrawal plan would have produced vastly better results than Biden's moronic faceplant.

Take your smug "we're all to blame" and shove it.

33 posted on 09/07/2021 3:33:37 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: Kaslin

The globalist GOPe empire strikes back!

These morons need to stick to the crappy recommendations for the SCOTUS they perpetually come up with and stay out of foreign policy...

This article can best be described as Goebbels-like...


34 posted on 09/07/2021 4:19:42 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: chief lee runamok
The argument that holding several administrations of both parties responsible for the endless war does hold merit.

I'll agree with that.

Neo-cons gonna neo-con, and the warmongers need their arms sales.

Which they'll be able to ramp up, now that 80 billion or so of stock has moved off the shelves...

35 posted on 09/07/2021 4:27:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Kaslin
Bull!

This is Biden's Surrender. Period!

36 posted on 09/07/2021 4:30:29 PM PDT by Chgogal (#GulagNancy is going all Cuba on Trump Supporters. #Biden lost The War on Terror.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
There’s no nice way to say this, but somebody has to: There have been a lot of bad reactions on the right to the Afghan calamity. The great majority of these reactions are simply misguided, but some are flat-out stupid — and a few are truly ghoulish. What unites all of them is partisanship: The need to hit Democrats, and the Democratic Party, for being the enemy — the reason everything is wrong.
Partisan Media Shill alert.

37 posted on 09/07/2021 6:05:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Kaslin

It was Biden mindlessly doing the opposite of everything Trump did.


38 posted on 09/07/2021 6:06:20 PM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Kaslin

Who is ‘Christopher Bedford’ and why should anyone give a damn?


39 posted on 09/07/2021 7:22:47 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: cranked

Ohh, yes. Let’s drink the Kool-Aid along with the Democrats. We can’t pass up an opportunity be bipartisan about our foreign policy, or defense policy, or whatever it is/was that failed in Afghanistan.

If the Democrats can be said to have “Trump Derangement Syndrome” (and they can), what do the Never Trumpers have? Is this Stockholm Syndrome? They helped elect Biden, so they definitely need to take a bite out of the Biden sh!t sandwich. I don’t think they have any right to insist we grab a plate and join them in the buffet line.


40 posted on 09/07/2021 10:29:01 PM PDT by Nabron
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