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JOHN STOSSEL: I just sued Facebook
John Stossel ^ | Sep 29 | John Stossel

Posted on 09/29/2021 9:22:04 AM PDT by RandFan

I just sued Facebook.

I didn’t want to sue. I hate lawsuits. I tried for a year to reach someone at Facebook to fix things, but Facebook wouldn’t.

Here’s the problem: Facebook uses “independent fact-checkers” to try to reduce fake news on their site.

That’s a noble goal.

Unfortunately, at least one Facebook “fact-checker” is a climate-alarmist group that cleverly uses its Facebook connections to stop debate.

Facebook is a private company. It has every right to cut me off.

But Facebook does not have the right to just lie about me, yet that’s exactly what Facebook and its “fact-checker” did. That’s defamation, and it’s just wrong.

My video this week shows videos that Facebook throttled.

The defamation started with the fact-checker, a group called Climate Feedback. They didn’t like that my video reported facts suggesting that government mismanagement probably played a bigger role in causing California’s wildfires than climate change.

Climate Feedback got Facebook to censor this as “misleading” and link to a page that still declares the following quote misleading: “Forest fires are caused by poor management. Not by climate change.”

As if that were something I said.

But I didn’t! I never said that.

In fact, I said: “Climate change has made things worse. California has warmed 3 degrees.”

I’ve worked at NBC, CBS, ABC and Fox. All would have fired me if I falsely attributed a quote!

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: facebook; lawsuit; stossel
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1 posted on 09/29/2021 9:22:04 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Noble, but useless


2 posted on 09/29/2021 9:24:22 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Peace to you and may God Bless you.)
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Previously noted.


3 posted on 09/29/2021 9:26:55 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: RandFan
Here’s the problem: Facebook uses “independent fact-checkers” to try to reduce fake news on their site. That’s a noble goal.

No it isn't. It should not be their goal to decide if what someone posts is true or not. If it is not true, another user can refute it.

4 posted on 09/29/2021 9:27:06 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: RandFan

Rots a Ruck.

Even if you spent all the money to even get it into court, the judge is probably a Leftist and biased toward Facebook.

If you have enough money to take it through appeals you might win.

But Hey, suggestion: if you have that much money and are a Patriot, why not launch a startup in competition with FB.


5 posted on 09/29/2021 9:28:33 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: RandFan

Hope he makes it a class action lawsuit because Facebook has harmed many lives and ruined as many conservatives as they could.


6 posted on 09/29/2021 9:29:05 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: RandFan

You’re pissing in the wind, John.................


7 posted on 09/29/2021 9:29:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Stoessel has drunk only HALF a glass of Kool-Aid.


8 posted on 09/29/2021 9:30:26 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: RandFan
Careful you don't get b!tch slapped again Johnny boy
9 posted on 09/29/2021 9:30:40 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: RandFan
Facebook is a private company. It has every right to cut me off.

That's not true. And eventually, once the proper lawsuits are brought up against Facebook, they will be proven to be a public service company.

If a newspaper reported the news (and opinions), and they were forbidden from bringing forth those views and opinions, then, the newspaper would have the right to sue those preventing their reporting or opinion writing.

Facebook (and Twitter, etc) bring the news and opinions to the people. They may not be the creators of the news and opinions, but, they do the delivery of that news and opinions. As delivery vehicles, they have a responsibility to deliver the content, from all sides.

If a newspaper was blocked from delivery of their papers, by a government or other organization, then, people and/or organizations would get sued. If a trucking company was forbidden from delivery of newspapers, simply because of the views of those working at the newspaper company, then, either the trucking company would get sued or go out of business. Facebook is a delivery method. It does not have the right to review and then block the contents of articles, simply because of Facebook's views or agenda.
10 posted on 09/29/2021 9:37:58 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Sans-Culotte

Here’s the problem: Facebook uses “independent fact-checkers” to try to reduce fake news on their site. That’s a noble goal.
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No it isn’t. It should not be their goal to decide if what someone posts is true or not. If it is not true, another user can refute it.
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That’s the trick!
Use “independent” third parties.
Our government and other very powerful interests in this country learned this trick over a century ago. You don’t have to put out government propaganda, when you can get “news” agencies to do it for you! It works great due to the illusion of objectivity.

Facebook is employing the same technique. Dump off the role of enforcing your biases on so-called independent agents. You get to wash your hands of any direct meddling.


11 posted on 09/29/2021 9:44:50 AM PDT by z3n (“If the populace knew with what idiocy they were ruled, they would revolt.” -Charlemagne)
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To: Sans-Culotte
Here’s the problem: Facebook uses “independent fact-checkers” to try to reduce fake news on their site. That’s a noble goal.

Sans-Culotte response: No it isn't. It should not be their goal to decide if what someone posts is true or not. If it is not true, another user can refute it.

You're absolutely right. Let everything pass unless someone makes a threat.

12 posted on 09/29/2021 9:44:52 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: V_TWIN

Dr. D’s career was pretty much ended by that slap - the WWF paid Stossel and sued Dr. D. Stossel is still here and still one of the few TV journalists I can actually respect. I’ll be cheering for him against Facebook.


13 posted on 09/29/2021 9:49:17 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: RandFan

Go for it John.


14 posted on 09/29/2021 9:49:43 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Stossel learned a hard lesson that day though....if your gonna say pro wrestling is fake to a pro wrestler you do it by long distance phone call.....everybody knows that!!! LOL!


15 posted on 09/29/2021 9:54:01 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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It’s amazing to me how long it took for people to realize that WWF is fake wrestling.

It’s entertaining and fun but when they do the same skit in each town It’s more than obvious


16 posted on 09/29/2021 10:19:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: RandFan

The Supreme Court has ruled that lunch counters may not break civil rights laws by discriminating against people by race. What gives the Supreme Court the right to tell private businesses what to do? The Supreme Court says they get this power by the fact that, as representatives of the public, the businesses have no right to represent the public in discriminating against people. The difference between that ruling and the Facebook blowup is that speech is protected by the Constitution. Race is not.


17 posted on 09/29/2021 10:36:44 AM PDT by nagant
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Yup - there’s nothing fake about pro wrestling. Those guys are pro athletes putting in a lot of hard work and taking some nasty bumps in the process. Scripted - yes. Fake - no.


18 posted on 09/29/2021 10:39:01 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Mr. K

I worked with a guy who used to wrestle. Not sure how “pro” he was…is there a semi-pro? All I know is the guy was practically crippled from injuries due to all the body-slamming. He was in really rough shape by age 45 and looked like he was 70.


19 posted on 09/29/2021 10:44:18 AM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven )
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Scripted - yes. Fake - no”

Saw a match on tv here in Fla back in the 70s. In a tag team match a wrestler came off the top rope to drop an elbow on another wrestlers arm being held by his teammate....the guys elbow dislocated for real.....that was the end of that match. Ouch


20 posted on 09/29/2021 11:01:03 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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