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Is China Falling?
Front page Magazine ^ | Oct 14, 2021 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 10/14/2021 7:41:26 PM PDT by george76

Selling off resources, purging top officials, and defaulting on debt.

It seems that the Chinese economy is falling, and there may be no one to bail them out. In a wave of recent reports, we see the contraction of the national economy, especially intense in the north. There have been blackouts and power failures across the area, and while the problems began in factories they have now spread to homes, a trend that is forecast to spread as time passes.

The most alarming case is that of the real estate colossus Evergrande, whose debt is so large that default is a real possibility, and thereafter a rash of defaults across the world. Evergrande is a global threat, menacing a worldwide outburst of indebtedness, with all the dreadful consequences that go along with it.

Evergrande is not the only menace. As The Epoch Times wrote recently, dictator Xi seems to be saying that he doesn't want a society that is individualistic, but rather a mass of citizens who see their role as supporting and following the state. He has purged hundreds of thousands of top officials from Party ranks in the recent past, and promises to do more of the same in the near future. The state has been selling commodities for the first time in a decade, and released oil from its strategic reserves for the first time in ten years. The Chinese are selling off their resources.

On October 4th, Evergrande, unable to meet its obligations, suspended sales of its stock. Over the past 20 years, more than 20 percent of the French Jewish population has left France, with a notable increase of those emigres going to Israel. The French are not happy with public education in their home country, and much prefer Israeli methods.

Evergrande is the biggest company to suspend trading to date, and it will resume activity next week, following a week's suspension of stock market activity. What will happen? Xi seems eager to put an end to unbridled trading, and to bring Chinese manufacturers under ever more rigid state control. When Jack Ma, the founder and CEO of Alibaba made a public speech that was critical of the nation's (that is, of Dictator XI's) crackdown on Chinese business, he disappeared for several days. Ma has since been a low-profile actor, and Xi has focused on relations with Taiwan, warning the island that it was only a matter of time before China undertook military action against it. This goes hand in hand with the mainland's efforts to pressure Taiwan's government into reintegrating with the People's Republic. The United States was meanwhile increasing military sales, and sending top Defense Department officials to Taipei. As an American expert on Taiwan put it, this arrangement favored increased Western influence. "You can't divorce the technology completely from the society that produced it."

Xi was evidently trying to resist. But Taiwan has elected a new, nationalist administration that has vowed to advance the country's ability to defend itself, and the growing friendship with America indicates that Biden is willing to play ball in that game.

Stay tuned.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asia; baluchistan; china; chinese; economy; evergrande; exports; obor; onebeltoneroad; pakistan; taiwan
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1 posted on 10/14/2021 7:41:26 PM PDT by george76
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The more leftist/communistic China gets, the worst it’ll fail. It did alright trying to be semi-capitalist with goods. But in the long run it’ll be another USSR if they keep the command economy up.


2 posted on 10/14/2021 7:43:39 PM PDT by Islasorna
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You can only delay the economic laws only so long, before they snap back like a sling shot.


3 posted on 10/14/2021 7:44:40 PM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, withwillout meaning to. )
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To: Fred Nerks

Red China is tanking.


4 posted on 10/14/2021 7:46:17 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: george76

yup

its falling

right now


5 posted on 10/14/2021 7:50:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jonty30

You can only delay the economic laws only so long, before they snap back like a sling shot.
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There was a time when I would agree with you. Not anymore. We have kicked this can down the road (U.S debt) about 30 years longer than I would have thought possible.


6 posted on 10/14/2021 7:53:00 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: Islasorna
"The more leftist/communistic China gets, the worst it’ll fail.

That's been my thought as well.
7 posted on 10/14/2021 7:57:03 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: cornfedcowboy

That just means past generations built up an amazing amount of reserve. Economic laws can only be toyed with for so long. It will be very bad in the long run.

Indescribably bad, imo.


8 posted on 10/14/2021 7:57:52 PM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, withwillout meaning to. )
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To: george76

China is faltering, not collapsing. Evergrande will probably not be a large problem as far as foreign contagion because its debt is not widely held around the world. China already has a workaround which will break the Evergrande debt into small chunks which will be spread amongst the provinces.


9 posted on 10/14/2021 8:02:16 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Let's Go Brandon!!!)
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To: george76

China props up Biden’s economy; if China fails, the U.S. fails.


10 posted on 10/14/2021 8:04:47 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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To: george76

I have heard there is a lot of political maneuvering in the background which, in China, means somebody’s going to get clipped. Maybe the PLA will take over. A military junta couldn’t be any worse than the civil government. Might even be an improvement.


11 posted on 10/14/2021 8:06:32 PM PDT by Spok (Eschew the politics of envy.)
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Power and finance...giving that dam a good kick would complete the trifecta.


12 posted on 10/14/2021 8:12:56 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Spok
The Chinese government, and especially their military, are extremely corrupt.

Probably more than the USA. A Chinese 3 star generalship costs $2.5 million.

All the Chinese officers purchased their offices.

The Chinese military is not a meritocracy.

13 posted on 10/14/2021 8:13:08 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: george76

“When China sneezes, the U.S. catches a cold ...”

the U.S. is totally dependent upon Chinese manufactured goods and supply-chain items such as packaging, parts, and a billion other items ... should China really fail, the U.S. will fall apart ...


14 posted on 10/14/2021 8:13:32 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: george76

China is doing just fine.

America is buying (everything) from them.

Everything.


15 posted on 10/14/2021 8:19:39 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam)
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To: george76

“...efforts to pressure Taiwan’s government into reintegrating with the People’s Republic.”

Taiwan cannot be reintegrated in to the People’s Republic.

Ledeen should know better.


16 posted on 10/14/2021 8:19:57 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: cornfedcowboy

I’ve decided we’re the least ugly in the ugly dog contest of major work currencies.

Which doesn’t mean I don’t think it won’t ultimately end poorly. It’s just taking a lot longer than I expected.


17 posted on 10/14/2021 8:20:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: catnipman

the U.S. is totally dependent upon Chinese manufactured goods and supply-chain items such as packaging, parts, and a billion other items ... should China really fail, the U.S. will fall apart ...
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And both parties put us here.
Trump was the only one who tried to reverse their disastrous policies.


18 posted on 10/14/2021 8:21:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: marktwain

The US military from at least O-7 on up is not a meritocracy, either. Maybe lower. It’s all about woke political correctness.


19 posted on 10/14/2021 8:22:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster; cornfedcowboy

That’s world, not work.


20 posted on 10/14/2021 8:25:57 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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