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Pennsylvania Federal Judge Enforces Second Amendment
AmmoLand ^ | 19 October, 2021 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/21/2021 4:41:45 AM PDT by marktwain

In a significant win for supporters of Second Amendment rights, the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania granted a preliminary injunction order to William Drummond and the Second Amendment Foundation, Inc. on October 13, 2021.

Drummond had sought to open a sportsman’s club at an existing range that had operated as the Greater Pittsburgh Gun Club since the middle 1960s. It consists of 265 acres in Robinson Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania.

In December of 2017, Drummond entered into a lease to operate the club. On February 19, 2018, the Robinson Township Board of Supervisors commenced proceedings to deny Drummond the ability to operate the range, through a change in the zoning ordinance.

The Board denied Drummond’s application for a zoning permit to operate the club. The lawsuit was brought by Drummond, with the aid of the Second Amendment Foundation, claiming the zoning ordinance violated Drummond’s Second Amendment Rights.

The District Court dismissed the lawsuit in January of 2019. The case was appealed to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. The Third Circuit vacated the District Court’s dismissal and sent the case back, based on the violation of the Second Amendment by the zoning ordinance.

One of the findings of the court seems of particular significance. From the order:

Although the health, safety, and welfare are substantial government interests, the Township must provide some evidence of how the amendments to the Zoning Ordinance serve those substantial government interests. The government must “persuade us that ‘the recited harms are real, not merely conjectural, and that the regulation will in fact alleviate these harms in a direct and material way.’”

Although the case took most of four years to resolve, this is a very significant win. Those who want to restrict Second Amendment rights must show real evidence of harm,

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As part of the exercise of Second Amendment rights, there is the right to have a place to practice and enhance your skills.

The government cannot just shut down ranges at a whim.

1 posted on 10/21/2021 4:41:45 AM PDT by marktwain
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government must “persuade us that ‘the recited harms are real, not merely conjectural

This would apply to vax mandates as well. How much of an "emergency" is something that has a >99% survival rate and current US mortality is half what it was from the maximum?

2 posted on 10/21/2021 4:47:11 AM PDT by fruser1
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The government cannot just shut down ranges at a whim.

Sure they can.

Some pissant township hacks, closed this range down {or curtailed it's operations} for 4 years and while he has won in a specific court, do you think the hacks will stop.

If this group is done, there will be more coming from a different bunch of gummint stiffs.

It's what they do; "They are, who we thought they were" coach Dennis Greene.

3 posted on 10/21/2021 4:54:24 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: USS Alaska

Uh ok... if “conjecture” is now unconstitutional and illegal how in the world are politicians going to function?

90% of the crap they spew is speculation...

I never saw a grandma get pushed over a cliff. Did you?


4 posted on 10/21/2021 5:01:42 AM PDT by CaptainKip
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To: marktwain

Yet we still need a judge’s permission to exercise basic rights.


5 posted on 10/21/2021 5:11:49 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: marktwain
In the town where I grew up...a comfortable (and currently *very* "progressive") suburb of an East Coast city...one can,today,buy marijuana despite the fact that it's a Federal offense to possess even minute quantities of it. OTOH,there was recently a man who wanted to open a gun shop in the town. People went crazy! "No Gun Shops In Anytown"! was seen on many front lawns.

He was denied a permit to open the shop...despite the fact that the right to keep and bear arms is *specifically* guaranteed in the Constitution.

6 posted on 10/21/2021 5:16:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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A well “regulated” militia ... it would be pretty unregular if people are unable to correctly use their weapons.


7 posted on 10/21/2021 5:19:51 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("Goats are like mushrooms. Because if you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters." - Joe Biden)
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He was denied a permit to open the shop...despite the fact that the right to keep and bear arms is *specifically* guaranteed in the Constitution.

The fight is far from over, but we are winning victories.

8 posted on 10/21/2021 5:44:23 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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“ The government must “persuade us that ‘the recited harms are real, not merely conjectural, and that the regulation will in fact alleviate these harms in a direct and material way.’”

My little town in northern Virginia recently passed a law banning guns from town offices for just such nebulous and imagined safety reasons. Other places in NOVA with similar ordinances are being sued, but don’t care because the residents are the ones footing the legal bills.

I hate social justice Dims.


9 posted on 10/21/2021 6:25:55 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: USS Alaska
Yup. The range has not yet won the case after 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees: it has just been remanded to a lower court to be reconsidered.

I'm sure the lower court will get right on it.

What cases like this show is that the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are incompatible with the administrative state. Any government official at any level can, at any time, interfere with your 1st, 2nd, 4th or 5th Amendment rights and it will take years and a small fortune to get redress. And even if you win in the end, there will almost never be any penalty for the officials involved.

Even with the (remote) possibility that you'll win in court, you need a small fortune to pursue the case. This effectively turns most of the US into an oligarchy, since only the rich can afford access and ordinary people have no effective recourse to the legal system. In addition, the upper classes can purchase exemptions through lobbying or bribery.

The only permanent solution is a restoration of freedom and the abolition of the myriad of picayune regulatory powers or the creation of special courts to expedite and reduce the cost of such adjudication.

10 posted on 10/21/2021 6:48:29 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: marktwain; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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This Ping List is for all things pertaining to infringes upon or victories for the 2nd Amendment.

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More 2nd Amendment related articles on FR's Bang List.

11 posted on 10/21/2021 6:52:09 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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When we considered moving east I was looking at a job in Sayre, PA. Reading their benefits website I noticed that the first day of deer hunting season was a holiday — maybe even a state holiday but am not sure about that. In any case, probably not smart to mess with Second Amendment there.


12 posted on 10/21/2021 6:54:03 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his cohort)
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To: marktwain
Cool. Nothing like having a place to get in some range time, target practice is a good thing...lets you do things like this



.22 Marlin 925 sighting in the scope, 1st shot at far right.

Hmmm...that reminds me I just got a spare magazine for the Bersa .380, need to run a few rounds through it and make sure everything works right...


13 posted on 10/21/2021 7:27:15 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun the frumious Bandersnatch!)
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To: marktwain
The fight is far from over, but we are winning victories.

One would hope, it's written quite clearly in the constitution. Now I am fingers crossed hoping the SCOTUS offers up more good news on this front.

14 posted on 10/21/2021 7:32:33 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Anarcho-tyranny”


15 posted on 10/21/2021 10:16:02 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: marktwain

Ours is going out of business, up for sale, to many COVID mandates in a FREAKING BLUE HIGH CRIME COUNTY.


16 posted on 10/21/2021 10:56:40 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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Sure doesn’t stop them from trying though does it…

A little bit of good news now and then is a good thing.


17 posted on 10/21/2021 4:54:33 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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To: pierrem15
I'm sure the lower court will get right on it.

The lower court immediately issued an injunction against the Town Zoning Board.

They did not wait long.

18 posted on 10/21/2021 5:07:01 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: marktwain

That’s unusually fast, at least from what I’ve read. Especially if the lower court disagrees. But I’m glad they acted. Still, how long did it take?


19 posted on 10/22/2021 6:47:42 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15
The appeal was decided on August 17, 2021. The injunction was put in place by the District Court on October 13, 2021.

The process took a bit less than two months.

20 posted on 10/22/2021 9:31:52 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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