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Why I’m finally a young earth creationist
premierchristianity.com ^ | 8-10-21 | Jim Mason

Posted on 11/04/2021 11:50:10 AM PDT by fishtank

Writing in response to Dr Luke Barnes' article on why he no longer believes in young earth creationism, physicist and engineer, Dr Jim Mason shares his own story, and explains why he believes a “plain reading” of Genesis leads to a young earth viewpoint.

(Excerpt) Read more at premierchristianity.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; apologetics; bible; christ; christianity; creation; crevo; deityofchrist; etdav; gospel; historicity; historicityofchrist; historicityofjesus; jesus; jesusisgod; jggg; newtestament; scientism; scientist
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"I grew up attending church regularly in a ‘mainstream’ denomination. I learned all the usual fascinating Bible stories - the Creation, the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, the serpent, the Flood, etc. However, in retrospect, I never heard the gospel message. So when I graduated secondary school, at which point it was tradition to ‘join the church’, ‘the church’ seemed to be just a social club. Since I was about to go off to university in another town, I declined..."
1 posted on 11/04/2021 11:50:10 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

From the article end-note:

“Jim Mason

Dr Jim Mason has a B.Sc. in Engineering Physics from Queen’s University, Ontario, Canada and a Ph.D. in experimental Nuclear Physics from McMaster University, Ontario, Canada. Jim worked for one of Canada’s major defence electronics system integration companies for 37 years, becoming vice president of engineering, chief technology officer and serving on the company’s executive committee. Since retiring, he has felt called to use his scientific background to show others that the Bible is believable from first verse to last, as is part of Creation Ministries International.”


2 posted on 11/04/2021 11:50:34 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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“All three disciplines are replete with evidence that is inconsistent with the paradigm.

For example, evidence from genetics clearly shows that mutations, rather than creating new and ever-more complex DNA as required by evolution, cause continuous degradation of DNA.
Geneticist Dr John Sanford calls this genetic entropy and it eventually causes extinction.
This happens so fast that humans simply cannot have existed for the length of time evolutionists assert.

The presence of radioactive carbon in samples from essentially every layer in the geological column clearly indicates that these layers are not hundreds of millions of years old, because after 90,000 years (at most) radiocarbon would be undetectable.

Soft tissue in dinosaur bones clearly indicates that these bones cannot be millions of years old, since biological tissue disintegrates rapidly.”


3 posted on 11/04/2021 11:53:11 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Also posted here:

https://creation.com/finally-a-creationist


4 posted on 11/04/2021 11:54:07 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

https://creation.com/jim-mason-nuclear-physicist


5 posted on 11/04/2021 11:56:33 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Yawn


6 posted on 11/04/2021 11:59:19 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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I’m a 7 day literal creationist, and I think the universe is 14 billion years old.

Einstein talked about the Twin Paradox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox
wherein a twin on earth hops into his lightspeed spaceship, travels at the speed of light for a year and returns to find his twin has aged 100 years in that same time.

God breathed the universe into being 14 billion years ago, zipped around on His FASTER than light spaceship for 7 days, and an observer who woulda been on earth at the time sees 14billion years pass by.

It’s all been verified by science by accelerating subatomic particles to almost the speed of light and they live a thousand times longer than unaccelerated particles.


7 posted on 11/04/2021 11:59:36 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: fishtank

Schweitzer say... ”I wrote back and said, ’Well, what data would convince you?’ And he said, ‘None.’”


This is an outstanding article describing the limits of “science” and inquiry. Highly recommended.


8 posted on 11/04/2021 11:59:36 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: fishtank

The jewish calander begins at 3761 bc or roughly the same time as the beginnings of the sumerian civilization. Abraham came from UR which was one of the capital cities of the sumerians. Abraham left UR at roughly the time of sumerian’s final collapse around 2000 bc.

So the dates of the young earth creationists tell more about the rise and fall of the ancient sumerians than they do about the geologic time.


9 posted on 11/04/2021 12:02:29 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: fishtank

Well reasoned and logical. Sad that he was in 2 churches that didn’t preach the gospel.


10 posted on 11/04/2021 12:03:10 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: fishtank

Time is relative. What is a “day” when there is no earth orbiting the sun?
Are we so human centric that we cannot imaging a day other than 24 hours?
Don’t you think God’s day might mean something different?

He can do ANYTHING - if he wanted to create it instantly, He could.

Why did he “rest” - NOT because he was “tired” it simply means he rested from creation - i.e. stopped.

Stop looking at things though our human lens and things get a lot easier to follow


11 posted on 11/04/2021 12:08:54 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: fishtank

There are other possibilities than just evilution and young earth creationism. Sort of like Noah’s flood. Did that happen because the world had simply become “evil” or was there far more sinister a cause which moved God to act...


12 posted on 11/04/2021 12:14:35 PM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: fishtank

The Bible is full of wisdom, but God did not intend it to be a person’s sole source of information, or he wouldn’t have given us eyes, ears, and a brain.


13 posted on 11/04/2021 12:20:11 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: fishtank
Because of the rate of decay of Carbon 14, carbon dating can only go back so far which is not very far indeed.

Scientists have developed a number of other radioactive decay dating technologies that go much further back because of the slower decay rates of the elements involved.

I attended a talk given by Gish and was impressed at the time, but upon further consideration should not have been. One of the points he made was that since a watermelon was over 90% water that a watermelon was pretty much the same thing as a cloud. He was using this analogy to try and explain that just because humans and chimpanzees had over 90% of the same DNA that they didn't necessarily have to be as related as the theory of evolution suggested.

This sort of "argumentation" is at best equivocation, and at worst out-and-out deception. Two things containing a similar amount of a particular element or molecule is not the same as two things containing similar low-level encodings. A piece of paper with a computer program on it is in many ways more similar to a disk with that program on it than a piece of paper with a poem on it; even if the type, shape, and weight of the two pieces of paper is identical and the amount of ink on both is also identical.

14 posted on 11/04/2021 12:21:25 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: BereanBrain
Don’t you think God’s day might mean something different?

Someone who says "God's 'day' might mean something different" might just as well also claim that "God's 'Thou Shalt Not Kill' might likewise actually mean something else entirely."

The Bible's "This is My Flesh - Eat of it!" might also means something else entirely!

Where do you stop?!

Given this standpoint (that "everything is relative"), one could just as easily attenuate, relativize, negate, or even reverse practically any given Bible verse.

Regards,

15 posted on 11/04/2021 12:22:13 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Even now the length of a day changes. If the theories of solar system creation are anything close to valid, then the length of a day on Earth has changed dramatically over the course of its lifetime.


16 posted on 11/04/2021 12:28:06 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
One of the points he made was that since a watermelon was over 90% water that a watermelon was pretty much the same thing as a cloud.

The person who makes this comparison is playing a "shell game." He's a scammer. He is being intentionally deceptive / misleading.

A cloud is about 99% air (having a humidity of 100%).

The visible component of a cloud is not the "humid" portion (i.e., not the water vapor, which is a colorless gas) - rather, it's tiny water droplets in aerosol form, which refract light and make a cloud appear white (or gray).

One cubic meter of cloud contains water droplets which, if physically put together, might be enough to take a good, long slug of water; the water vapor portion, if condensed out, might be enough to quench the thirst of a thirsty man once.

One cubic meter of watermelon, on the other hand, contains roughly 900 kg of water - i.e., enough water to see a man through almost an entire year.

Yes! You and I are "on the same page," here, Fardels!

Regards,

17 posted on 11/04/2021 12:34:22 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: fishtank
The rational, most consistent conclusion from this evidence seemed to be that the Bible, as plainly read and understood, provided an accurate history of the Earth.

If that is true and a literal reading of the Bible must be accepted as fact then does that mean the sun does revolve around the earth rather than the reverse?

18 posted on 11/04/2021 12:38:42 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: who_would_fardels_bear; BereanBrain
Even now the length of a day changes. If the theories of solar system creation are anything close to valid, then the length of a day on Earth has changed dramatically over the course of its lifetime.

True, Fardels! An Earth day was originally much shorter; when the Earth first coalesced / condensed out of the nebula, it might have been approx. 12 hours long. But now YOU are equivocating, Fardels. A mere 50% shorter day is hardly "dramatic" in the context of cosmology.

For BereanBrain's statement to have any REAL validity, an Earth day would have had to originally have been thousands or millions of years in length. Only then could, e.g., animal life have "come forth" in a single day, as a LITERAL reading of Genesis claims!

Regards,

19 posted on 11/04/2021 12:40:50 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: fishtank

Reading this thread, I’m kind of amazed at how many accept the THEORY of evolution like it must be established fact. Why evolution, or anything else for that matter? Origins is one of those things where we can never know for sure, so why do we think we have it all figured out?


20 posted on 11/04/2021 12:41:45 PM PDT by viewfromthefrontier
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