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Rittenhouse Verdict: “if somebody … so clearly acting in self-defense had been found guilty...
Legal Insurrection ^ | 11/19/2021 | William A Jacobson

Posted on 11/19/2021 6:02:44 PM PST by markomalley

Tony Katz (00:00):

We’re following this case. William Jacobson, Cornell law professor here to break down his take on the verdict and how he thinks it played out in the jury room. Kyle Rittenhouse, not guilty. All charges, Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today….

It’s not guilty on all charges in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial…. William Jacobson joins us right now from Legal Insurrection, Cornell law professor that he is, he has been following the case at Legal Insurrection, and they’ve already got the email out. It is up at the site, legalinsurrection.com, not guilty on all counts. Let’s break it down from some interesting perspectives there. William Jacobson is this the result you expected and what makes you think it took four days to get there?

William Jacobson (01:46):

Well, it’s certainly the result that should have been. I mean, everybody was wondering why is it taking so long. I guess it took them that long to get to the right result. I’m assuming that there was a hold out, that there’s maybe one or two or three people who had to be convinced.But if somebody so clearly not guilty, so clearly acting in self-defense had been found guilty, it would have been almost unimaginable.

Tony Katz (02:27):

One of the things, one of the things that we we see, one of the things that, that, that we, we, we looked at as, as we look at this case, is that the prosecution really wanted to make the claim that the problem is, is that Kyle Rittenhouse was there. If Kyle Rittenhouse wasn’t there, none of this would have happened. Why did that not work as a defense?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: illinois; kenosha; kylerittenhouse; kylerittenhousetrial; wisconsin
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Full headline: Rittenhouse Verdict: “if somebody … so clearly acting in self-defense had been found guilty, it would have been almost unimaginable”

Good interview. Well worth reading the whole thing.

1 posted on 11/19/2021 6:02:44 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

We came very close to the Left and its Brandon Media jamming this lynching of Kyle Rittenhouse in our faces...


2 posted on 11/19/2021 6:04:16 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: markomalley
one of the things that, that, that we, we, we looked at as, as we look at this case, is that the prosecution really wanted to make the claim that the problem is, is that Kyle Rittenhouse was there.

Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd strike out.

3 posted on 11/19/2021 6:05:58 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Nice Diamonds are Forever reference.


4 posted on 11/19/2021 6:13:48 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Wint and Kidd weren't as greasy as "Bunger" and FatKraut.

Jill St. John for the Win!!!

5 posted on 11/19/2021 6:17:30 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: markomalley

If the prosecution had won then women would be in great trouble. The prosecution argued that everyone needs to take a beating every now and then. They also argued that its unlawful to use a gun when the person attacking you only has their hands or a skateboard or a smaller gun. What would women do if attacked? And finally they argued that provocation alone is enough to void someones right to self defense. Just having a gun is provocation. Like the short skirt theory, this is warped logic. If you listen to the prosecutor and think of Kyle as a women, the prosecutions arguments are insane.


6 posted on 11/19/2021 6:31:35 PM PST by poinq
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To: markomalley

Too young to be there with a gun?

Seriously? This coming from libs who day in day out instigate the under age to rape, loot, murder, cheat, sell drugs etc... Because as young they do not have to be treated as adult criminals...

Enough of this Salem hunt crap, using “babes” to get people hanged


7 posted on 11/19/2021 6:34:21 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: markomalley
"if Rittenhouse wasn't there"...Then more the town would have burned.

I imagine that word got out pretty quick that arsonist were being shot on sight (Not) but sure put a damper on their riot.

8 posted on 11/19/2021 6:36:56 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: markomalley

One thing to take from this article is Kyle is a public figure and that makes it very difficult to win a defamation suit. Some really outrageous statements may qualify, but it won’t be as straightforward as the Sandman cases.


9 posted on 11/19/2021 6:44:56 PM PST by hirn_man
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To: poinq

“The prosecution argued that everyone needs to take a beating every now and then. They also argued that its unlawful to use a gun when the person attacking you only has their hands or a skateboard or a smaller gun. What would women do if attacked?”

I actually think that was a huge mistake for the prosecutor to argue that way because every woman on the jury immediately went there in their heads, what would I do?


10 posted on 11/19/2021 6:59:58 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: markomalley

Bkmk


11 posted on 11/19/2021 7:30:02 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: markomalley

12 posted on 11/19/2021 10:00:58 PM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Deaf Smith

“ I imagine that word got out pretty quick that arsonist were being shot on sight (Not) but sure put a damper on their riot.”
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A lot people are commenting about “no riots here, it’s too cold”. Well, I’m in San Antonio. It’s a bit cool, that’s it. But we have no rioting, either - too many ARs.


13 posted on 11/20/2021 12:33:08 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: kiryandil

If he were convicted none of use would be able to defend ourselves from the mob, self defense would be racist


14 posted on 11/20/2021 4:06:51 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: poinq

Nice post. Rationale priciples.


15 posted on 11/20/2021 4:52:20 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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To: hirn_man
One thing to take from this article is Kyle is a public figure and that makes it very difficult to win a defamation suit. Some really outrageous statements may qualify, but it won’t be as straightforward as the Sandman cases.

How is he a public figure? He's had close to the same media attention as Sandmann, and the exact same of "public figureness" as him before these events happened - zero. And every bit of defamation is completely related to how they made him into a "public figure".

By your argument, the media could avoid defamation lawsuits from anyone by simply printing their name on the front page of a couple papers, and bam - everyone's potentially a "public figure"!
16 posted on 11/20/2021 8:43:42 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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He became a very public figure when he shot 3 people and got charged with the murder of 2.

I don’t like it, but that’s a fact.

Sandman was just a kid who didn’t do anything but stand on some steps and got labeled a racist in the press.

I have heard this take from several legal experts.


17 posted on 11/21/2021 5:49:00 PM PST by hirn_man
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Sandman was just a kid who didn’t do anything but stand on some steps and got labeled a racist in the press.

...And had his face plastered all over by the media too. So why isn't he a 'public figure' while Rittenhouse supposedly is?
18 posted on 11/22/2021 10:49:37 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

Sandman didn’t shoot three people, kill two, and get charged with murder.

Your argument isn’t with me, its with lawyers that agree it was self defense.

To better understand the difference I suggest you go to law school.


19 posted on 11/22/2021 3:35:03 PM PST by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man
Your argument isn’t with me, its with lawyers that agree it was self defense.

To better understand the difference I suggest you go to law school.


We weren't arguing over whether it was self-defense or not, the conversation was over what constitutes a "public figure".
20 posted on 11/23/2021 10:49:54 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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