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'Problematic' Roosevelt statue at American Museum of Natural History finds new home
ABC News ^ | 20 November 2021 | Meredith Deliso

Posted on 11/21/2021 12:17:03 AM PST by blueplum

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To: blueplum

At least the statue will have a home and not be destroyed as was the Robert E. Lee statue in Richmond, Va.


41 posted on 11/21/2021 6:24:11 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Teddy Roosevelt was the closest thing we have had to a white supremacist president.”

Have you ever read what Abraham Lincoln said?


42 posted on 11/21/2021 6:28:37 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: God luvs America

They will be coming after FDR as well—they just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

https://www.aier.org/article/how-fdr-killed-federal-anti-lynching-legislation/

Here is the money quote that will eventually make FDR an enemy of the woke—and get all the statues pulled down, the memorial removed from DC, and the highways, schools and libraries renamed:

“The Anti-Lynching Bill may also be considered a casualty of Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s political ambition.”


43 posted on 11/21/2021 6:35:22 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: jeffersondem; hinckley buzzard
Have you ever read what Abraham Lincoln said?

Buzzard may have read his remarks with more of an open mind and understanding of the context than you ever have, troll.

44 posted on 11/21/2021 6:42:52 AM PST by x
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To: Vendome

“The piece depicts Roosevelt on horseback, while Native American and African figures walk alongside him.”

The figure does appear to be an African. The art piece would have been much, much better if it had depicted the great southerner Holt Collier by his side, on horseback too.

Collier was the black Confederate cavalryman that Blue State Culture tells us never existed. He is an amazing part of America’s forbidden history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holt_Collier


45 posted on 11/21/2021 6:45:24 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: x

“Buzzard may have read his remarks with more of an open mind and understanding of the context than you ever have, troll.”

That is an interesting comment.

Can you provide the remarks and the context that will reassure us that AL did not hold ethnocentric views?


46 posted on 11/21/2021 6:51:44 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem; BroJoeK; DoodleDawg

Virtually everyone at that time had “ethnocentric views.” That was the norm. Look at the context of the times and at actions, not words.


47 posted on 11/21/2021 6:56:00 AM PST by x
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To: knarf

I don’t know how to interpret the library’s statements, but I think it’s equally likely that the proper interpretation is “Yeah, we’ll
go through the motions and have a committee of idiots tell us what ‘context’ plaques we should be put up around it, but we’re thrilled to have this glorious piece of art grace our facility.” In any event, that’s the end result and the statue does not end up going to way of the Robert E Lee statue in Richmond


48 posted on 11/21/2021 7:18:51 AM PST by j.havenfarm (20 years on Free Republic, 12/10/20! More than 3700 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: blueplum
Teddy has been sent to the back of the bus.


49 posted on 11/21/2021 7:24:46 AM PST by Rebelbase ( State Dept. Havana Syndrome victims: Guinea pigs of 5G/graphene oxide vax experiments?)
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To: cgbg

Yup- that as well


50 posted on 11/21/2021 7:39:10 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: jeffersondem

Kewel story...


51 posted on 11/21/2021 7:52:09 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: x; BroJoeK; DoodleDawg

“Virtually everyone at that time had “ethnocentric views.” That was the norm. Look at the context of the times and at actions, not words.”

That is an interesting comment.

Did you intend to direct your comment to me or were you attempting to scold the author of post 15 who wrote: “Teddy Roosevelt was the closest thing we have had to a white supremacist president”?


52 posted on 11/21/2021 11:18:09 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: FreedomPoster
The idea of taking down TR's statue is appalling to me. Originally, the statute of TR on his horse was solitary. It was a representation of his cowboy persona and as an organizer of the Rough Rider volunteers who took San Juan Hill during the Spanish American War. And that original statue was installed in recognition of TR's contributions toward the founding and support of the museum. It was only later, in an effort to be "inclusive," that the now problematic unmounted Black and Indian figures were added.

Of course, the little appreciated truth of the American Indian tribes were that long before whites arrived, they were routinely savage and genocidal toward each other. Then the whites came with better weapons and vast numbers, insisting that the Indians had to make peace, settle down, learn and practice agriculture, and stop the lawless ways of aboriginals. And yes, they had to gradually yield most of their land so that it could be put to productive crops for market to feed millions of people and help alleviate poverty.

No society could afford to or ever tried to preserve aboriginals in near full and complete possession of an entire continent. And the Indians themselves did not recognize land titles or ownership, only the power take and hold land so that a people could use it. If you could not hold the land against stronger tribes, you did not get to claim and use it as yours. By those rules, whites were in the right in dispossessing the Indians.

In truth, most Indians adapted and assimilated. Two of my closest boyhood friends were brothers with brown skin and dark hair due to their mother being a full-blood Cherokee born on a reservation in North Carolina. Like us, she and her family were faithful, practicing Catholics and we originally met in church, with out two families becoming good friends. My contemporary of the two brothers died a few years ago, with his proudest accomplishment in life being his years of service in the US Army during the Cold War.

In truth, there are no separate peoples as to American Indians, Blacks, Hispanics, or Whites. We are one American people, of infinite variety, distinctions, and gradations. To Hell with segregation and separatism.

53 posted on 11/21/2021 12:45:08 PM PST by Rockingham
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54 posted on 11/21/2021 7:21:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: 100%FEDUP
"This is a statue of Teddy. What's been lost to all involved, it was the Roosevelt family who funded the damned museum in the first place! "

He was also awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously by Bill Clinton, just before he left office in 2001.

New York Post - April 17, 2016:

Teddy Roosevelt started the Museum of Natural History in his bedroom

55 posted on 11/21/2021 8:12:55 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: 100%FEDUP
Also, one of the elephants in the group of 8 at the center of the Akeley Hall of African Mammals, is one T.R. shot on a trip after he left The White House.

Theodore Roosevelt's Elephant

56 posted on 11/21/2021 8:19:28 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th
Very good book about the Museum of Natural History:

Dinosaurs in the Attic by Douglas Preston

57 posted on 11/21/2021 8:23:21 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Rockingham
"Perhaps an acceptable and historically accurate replacement statue group could be contrived that has an Indian owning a Black as a slave and torturing a White captive."

That would be more historically accurate, but they wouldn't allow that.

58 posted on 11/21/2021 8:26:14 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: hinckley buzzard
White supremacist huh?

Teddy Roosevelt's 'Shocking' Dinner With Booker T. Washington at The White House

59 posted on 11/21/2021 8:30:14 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: knarf
"...what with the communist's years long "Kristallnacht" and historical removal of any statuary that preceded our modern American social structure."

Dems think that if they get rid of their slave history, nobody will remember what racists they were, and still are.

60 posted on 11/21/2021 8:32:20 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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