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Sotomayor compares fetus to brain dead person, says fetal movement doesn't prove consciousness
Fox News ^ | Dec 1, 2021 | Andrew Miller

Posted on 12/01/2021 5:28:15 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor rejected the idea that a fetus that has the ability to move and react to pain is a human life that should be protected from abortion.

"Virtually every state defines a brain death as death," Sotomayor, appointed by former President Barack Obama, said during oral arguments in a potential landmark abortion rights case Wednesday, as the state of Mississippi defended an abortion restriction law that directly challenges Roe v. Wade.

"Yet, the literature is filled with episodes of people who are completely and utterly brain dead responding to stimuli," Sotomayor continued. "There's about 40 percent of dead people who, if you touch their feet, the foot will recoil. There are spontaneous acts by dead brain people. So I don't think that a response to -- by a fetus necessarily proves that there's a sensation of pain or that there's consciousness."

Sotomayor also said that she believes the idea that a fetus is a human life is a "religious view."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; fetus; life; scotus; sotomayor; tokenhispanic
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To: EvilCapitalist

“The standard liberal position needs to be able to point to some such line, because liberals usually hold that it is permissible to kill an embryo or fetus but not a baby. I have argued that the life of a fetus (and even more plainly, of an embryo) is of no greater value than the life of a nonhuman animal at a similar level of rationality, self-awareness, capacity to feel and so on, and that because no fetus is a person, no fetus has the same claim to life as a person. Now we have to face the fact that these arguments apply to the newborn baby as much as to the fetus. A week-old baby is not a rational and self-aware being, and there are many non-human animals whose rationality, self-awareness, capacity to feel and so on, exceed that of a human baby a week or a month old. If, for the reasons I have given, the fetus does not have the same claim to life as a person, it appears that the newborn baby does not either.”

Peter Singer, Princeton University “Bioethicist”


21 posted on 12/01/2021 5:42:43 PM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I could imagine Hellen Keller saying “Hello Justice Sonia Sotomayor, we should talk/“


22 posted on 12/01/2021 5:43:14 PM PST by tarpit
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

And she’s a perfect example.


23 posted on 12/01/2021 5:43:47 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: EvilCapitalist

I am beginning to believe in reincarnation.

Joseph Mengele is alive and well on the SC!


24 posted on 12/01/2021 5:44:01 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Definitely has been deceived.


25 posted on 12/01/2021 5:44:26 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Sotomayor is quite the culture of death zealot.


26 posted on 12/01/2021 5:44:36 PM PST by delchiante
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Her and kagen need to recuse themselves.

27 posted on 12/01/2021 5:45:06 PM PST by Trillian
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To: tarpit

An Evil Latina.


28 posted on 12/01/2021 5:45:30 PM PST by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind blows too much)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

And people wonder why things are the way they are. SMH.


29 posted on 12/01/2021 5:46:43 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: cgbg

Agreed.


30 posted on 12/01/2021 5:47:56 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

At some point it’s going to be imperative that we roast over an open fire this Matriarchy which rules over us


31 posted on 12/01/2021 5:49:30 PM PST by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
This is what happens when we attempt to make the argument about when life and consciousness begins. . .as if it is the purview of science or any other "power of the earth" to affirm our inalienable rights. The proper question is when does the individual receive the endowment of rights? The answer? No one knows, nor can anyone assert that it takes place at conception or at birth. Because of this and because the value of life is self-evidently precious, it is the proper role of the law to assume that rights must begin at conception, because no power of the earth can assert otherwise.

Thus because life is precious, the law must err on the side of life and, therefore, individual rights are to be protected from conception and through the stages of fetal development when the individual is most vulnerable.

32 posted on 12/01/2021 5:49:55 PM PST by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

How the hell would she know? She’s never been pregnant, and never will be.


33 posted on 12/01/2021 5:53:05 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: EvilCapitalist
...but she’s basically brain dead, it’s ok to pull the plug on her by her logic

We weren't allowed to for RBG.

34 posted on 12/01/2021 5:53:24 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Socon-Econ

It has to be the dumbest argument ever.

You can argue many things but this is not one of them.


35 posted on 12/01/2021 5:53:44 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

A simple brain scan would reveal that a fetus is capable of serving on the Supreme Court.


36 posted on 12/01/2021 5:53:50 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

That’s profound.


37 posted on 12/01/2021 5:53:59 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Yes ago,when I was a mere kid,I got a job working for a pathologist at a large,very well known,hospital. One day my duties took me to the department's autopsy room. Being a teaching hospital the autopsy room's floors and walls were filled with vessels of various sizes containing organs of various sizes.

On the floor were large vessels containing hearts,lungs,livers,brains,etc. On the walls were smaller ones containing smaller things.One of the vessels caught my eye.

It was a large pickle jar type of thing containing about a half dozen fetuses in a clear liquid...probably formalin. It was before Roe v Wade so I assume they were stillborn. They were all about the size of my thumb and they were all *perfectly* formed.There was no way to mistake them for anything other than tiny little human beings.I could see one of them so clearly that I could tell that he/she needed his/her fingernails clipped.

That was about 50 years ago...and it's an image that will stay with me for the rest of my life.

38 posted on 12/01/2021 5:55:01 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

but even the braindead, can’t survive without a heart!

wait, she doesn’t have one... er either


39 posted on 12/01/2021 5:56:08 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Yes ago = years ago


40 posted on 12/01/2021 5:57:56 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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