Posted on 12/04/2021 7:12:43 AM PST by george76
Quarantine centers in Germany have included prisons, and Australian authorities have resorted to isolated camps under 24-hour surveillance..
More than a dozen people have been forcibly placed in government isolation facilities in Germany while hundreds of people have been held in similar Australian centers as Western countries continue to ramp up the use of forced quarantine centers in the name of stopping COVID-19.
A recent survey by German newspaper Welt am Sonntag found that at least 15 people have been taken to quarantine facilities in Germany’s 10 largest cities since the beginning of the year.
The 15 individuals, who allegedly violated at-home isolation requirements for COVID-19, include 11 in Munich, two in Stuttgart, and one each in Düsseldorf and Frankfurt, Welt am Sonntag reported. The full number of cases is likely higher, as authorities Berlin and Leipzig did not provide figures to the paper.
Some of the quarantine facilities were located within prisons, according to Welt. “Most of the federal states have closed areas in hospitals or prisons for quarantine breakers,” the outlet noted. “In Eisenhüttenstadt, Brandenburg, refusals were last housed in a former deportation detention center, in North Rhine-Westphalia, for example, in a Solingen clinic.”
Germany has longed allowed forcible quarantine of people suspected of having infectious diseases and who refuse to submit to other isolation measures. The German Infection Protection Act of 2000 specifically authorizes “placement in a locked hospital” or “locked facility” to that effect. “The fundamental right to freedom of the person can be restricted in this respect,” the law states.
With hundreds of thousands of Germans subject to domestic quarantine orders at any given time, city authorities typically “check” residents “if there is a specific suspicion,” according to Welt. In Stuttgart, officials rely on “special tipsters,” including “neighbors, acquaintances and relatives.”
“A city spokesman emphasized that contact with alleged quarantine breakers took place immediately.”
The 10 largest cities in Germany have also initiated more than 250 fine proceedings for quarantine violations, the newspaper noted. Fines ranged between 250-1,000 euros, though they can run up to 25,000 euros.
Australia’s COVID camp crackdown..
The Australian government has taken forced quarantine a step farther. This summer, Australian authorities began constructing COVID-19 quarantine camps across the country, including in Victoria and the Northern Territory (NT).
Some centers have already opened, as in the NT, where hundreds of people who have tested positive for the virus or had close contact with someone who did – as well as thousands of international travelers – have been relocated for at least two-week stays.
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Earlier this week, police arrested three teenagers after they escaped from a quarantine center near the city of Darwin in the NT, the Independent reported. The boys, ages 15, 16, and 17, had been taken to the camp, the Howard Springs centre, after being deemed close contacts.
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They scaled the walls of the facility Wednesday morning but were captured later that day after police launched a manhunt and set up checkpoints around the area.
All three boys, who come from the small indigenous community of Binjari, tested negative for COVID-19 before their escape, according to NT Chief Minister Michael Gunner.
Despite acknowledging that the teenagers posed a “very low” health risk, Gunner slammed them at a briefing Wednesday, saying that there was “absolutely no excuse” for their actions. “Absconding from Howard Springs isn’t just dangerous — it is incredibly stupid, because we will catch you and there will be consequences,” he vowed. The boys may face fines of over $5,000 each.
Army-enforced quarantine..
Gunner, a member of the left-wing Labor Party, imposed a total lockdown in Binjari and the nearby community of Rockhole last month after reports of just nine positive cases, banning people from leaving their homes except in cases of medical emergencies. The NT at that point had reported zero COVID deaths and a few hundred cases in a population of 246,000.
Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison nevertheless dispatched around two dozen Australian soldiers to the region in late November, who began rounding up close contacts in the indigenous communities and transferring them to quarantine camps.
“We have already identified 38 close contacts from Binjari, but that number will go up,” Gunner announced in a November 21 press briefing. “Those 38 are being transferred now.”
Hundreds of households and close contacts have since been flown to Howard Springs, Australia’s ABC News reported, while more than 1,300 international arrivals have completed “mandatory supervised quarantine” at the facility since October. The center, which remains under 24-hour surveillance, can hold around 3,000 people.
The rules for camp detainees are severe, requiring them to stay within their rooms, or a small porch attached to the rooms, at all times, unless permitted to leave by an officer. Masks and social distancing are mandatory outside of the cabins, regardless of COVID status.
Detainees must also “comply with any directions given by an authorized officer to avoid people congregating in a quarantine zone,” according to guidance from the NT government. “You are not able to share or hand over physical objects to residents who are not your family members.”
“Quarantine facility staff will remind you about wearing your mask, staying on your veranda and physically distancing through information in your resident booklet, by sending you sms reminder texts and verbally in person if we see you are not following the Direction.”
“All residents in quarantine, including all children, are tested three times during their stay on day 1, 5 and 12. These tests are a nose and throat swabs,” the guidance noted. “If you do not undergo a test, you will be required to remain in quarantine a further 10 days at your own expense.”
Quarantine in Australia isn’t cheap. A two-week detainment in the NT costs $2,500 for an individual and $5,000 for a family of two or more.
Do they get gold stars?
History repeats itself. What next ......”Hail Victory”
A luxury of people who don’t have someone show up at their door and drag them away to a fenced in enclosure outside of town.
If you don’t see the tyranny here and in Australia, you are being willfully blind.
Example, the Jim Cramer trial balloon:
Cramer: U.S. Government Should Make Covid Vaccine Mandatory Nationwide
I’m not saying that this is any of his motivation for his idiocy, but maybe his trust is invested in some of the, shall we say, “involved” market players in the VAX industry.
Elaborate. Otherwise you look like a stooge, a troll, or a glowie.
Thanks. Yikes.
Quarantine centers = Re-education camps coming to the US per Bill Ayres, the Obozo’s political mentor
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It’s totally about keeping people safe and healthy and it’s all about a cold. /s
Castro and AIDS victims. Sounds familiar?
There is a core of truth as to what's being described as happening in Australia, but most reports are leaving a lot of detail that helps to explain, if not necessarily, justify why it's happening.
I have no idea of what's going on in Germany. From what I have seen it sounds far more extreme than anything that's happening here, but as I've got all my information so far from a few media reports, I've no idea how accurate they are.
No, Australia isn’t socialist. Some states of Australia do have elected socialist governments at the moment right now. The federal government is currently a conservative government. Far more conservative than your current federal government from what I see.
No, that's not what I actually said. There's a lot more involved than that.
Hell, there are videos of them grabbing an Abo grandma elder and stuffing her in the back of a dog catcher truck.
Really? Can you provide a link to this video? Because I haven't seen it and I would like to.
He also said it’s really hard to get healthcare out to those people. Funny how it’s not hard to get soldiers and coppers out there.
Several of the communities in question are almost next door to an Air Force base, so, yes, it's very easy to get ADF personnel to those locations.
On the other hand, the nearest hospital with an ICU facility is about 200 miles away.
You just have no idea of the logistics involved.
It’s tyranny.
That's a perfectly valid opinion.
I just think such opinions should be informed by facts.
Thank you, FRiend.
Much better to hear the reasoned voice from someone involved in the situation than all the hyperbole and snark from those who merely wish to pontificate about something they have little to no knowledge of.
OT what do you think of the youtube, Aussie Cossack channel? Does it give a fair representation or do you think it biased in either direction. In other words, should we trust what they put out or is it like so much of the media, lacking in proper context.
Than you again.
Then, explain to me the reason for the segregation of the unvaccinated and the vaccinated. I may be paranoid, but some of us just wouldn’t put up with that.
But Australia's constitution gives state governments control over all matters relating to public health. They have the power, and the Federal government cannot override their decisions in this area.
Half of Australia's state governments are Labor governments at the moment (socialist). Throughout the pandemic, they've used their public health power pretty aggressively to exert control over people. If they had their way, we'd probably still be in lockdowns for another couple of months at least. The only way the Federal government could get them to agree to reducing restrictions (and they have - nearly all of Australia is now out of lockdown - there's a few very small lockdowns in one part of the country, but two months ago, about half the country was in lockdown) was to negotiate a national plan that linked opening up to vaccine targets, and part of that negotiation did involve the idea of allowing distinctions between what vaccinated people and unvaccinated people would be allowed to do. Basically, Victoria, which does have a hard left socialist state government lead by a paranoid autocrat named Daniel Andrews (I live in Victoria) forced the situation by being unwilling to agree to anything else, and without universal agreement, we wouldn't have opened up at this point.
Is this justified by any real medical science? I'm not a doctor, but I don't think so. But politics and the constitution meant it's what we've wound up with.
And while it's certainly problematic, even Daniel Andrews is now saying, he wants to remove the different restrictions in the next couple of months. Without the agreement, he wouldn't be doing that. Other states will do it before Victoria - New South Wales, for example, has set a date of 15th December to stop the differentiated treatment and may even do it a little earlier. Victoria, it's more likely to be no earlier than February next year, but it's still faster than it would have been without the compromise agreements.
I’m not familiar with Aussie Cossack. I’ve had a very quick look at his youtube channel, and it doesn’t look too bad to me - my impression is he’s a bit further right than I am (I’m a moderate conservative), so our opinions on certain matters may differ, but I can’t immediately see anything that I think looks dishonest.
“The boys may face fines of over $5,000 each.’
Life without the Lord looks like this: “Hi. I am going to take you to a room. If you leave the room, then you must pay me $5,000. Ok? Good. Let’s go.”
And when do they re-open Dachau and put up “new showers?”
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