Posted on 12/06/2021 6:48:14 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
AKA not profitable enough and too effective?
Thanks. I will pass that on.
As a side note I got some good news today. I won’t have to see a cardiologist for one my many adverse reactions to the vaccine.
I don’t want your poison in my body
That’s called “freedom.”
Monoclonal antibodies are poison?
Fine, don't take them then.
Anything that might/will work the WHO and CDC will demonize.
“ Convalescent plasma is no where near as good as monoclonals”
Totally agree.
I will say it again….. I respect what you do.
Then please, by all means, dont take it. Feel free to seek alternative treatments. We get that you dont want vaccination, MABs, and only ivermectin. Feel free to get it if you can, but you dont need to show up on every thread with your uneducated opinion. I think we all know where you stand.
Oh, by the way, did you hear Alex Marlowe on Breitbart today? He pretty much destroyed the Ivermectin argument like most rational people.
We will stipulate you dont want and advances in CoVID treatment or therapy, and are comfortable with unproven techniques that prevent progress. You are doing a great job building that bridge to 1854 in terms of medicine. Well done.
I think we all know his position. He is like the petulant little four year old that has to throw a fit to be relevant. It is rather amazing. Next he will trudge out that Monoclonals had something to do with abortion (it does not), and then it will be the vaccinations will damn your soul to hell because cultured cells from 1977 were used — it is pathetic the pretzel logic this particular Freeper use, and oh my, the conga line of acolytes he is a part of for their leader...
Unbelievable.
:) Thanks!
the monoclonal antibody cocktails by Regeneron and now other makers are FAR superior to convalescent plasma and FAR, FAR safer ... there’s now no reason whatsoever to administer convalescent plasma, which has always been a desperation measure when no other treatments were known ...
So you are saying people should only be allowed treatments that you approve of?
Blood plasma treatment is given to later stage covid patients.
Past 10 days.
Monoclono is first 10 days, before oxygen sat levels drop too far.
I was given the enhanced plasma in the ICU.
I believe that, steroids, and God saved my life.
The fact that they want to stop using it for covid treatment is criminal in my opinion.
May as well say it , if the experts think it’s good it’s real bad..
Well you are free to have your opinion. Having used convaleascenf plasma on numerous cases I have not seen the same results. Steroids are effective.
Your judgment that anything less based on your N = 1 is criminal is simply a not well thought out statement. You were probably treated with a zillion things and had doctors and nurses at you bedside constantly who couldn’t read even the most subtle changes. You probably had more blood taken and had professionals interpreting and reacting to those labs in real time.
Convalescent plasma is a great idea that just didn’t eork in this instance.
Competent professionals and divine intervention is what saves your life. The data on convalescent plasma simply is not that strong. Oh. And convalescent plasma doesn’t have to wait ten days. Your treatment paradigms are grossly incorrect.
I never said the plasma had to wait past 10 days.
I said the monoclono was not given past 10 days. So the only blood option left is enhanced plasma.
I was treated by the expert covid specialist in my county as well as other drs.
Since you claim you are a Dr, you should know there isn’t much given to covid patients that is new. I had the kitchen sink thrown at me. I begged for everything and anything they had.
I think it is criminal for Drs to withhold treatment when someone is dying.
Of course when I begged for ivermectin, I was told No.
I hope there is a special place in hell for Drs who withhold plasma treatment, ivermectin, and anything else they are not giving to patients. My lungs are permanently scarred because of this lab created plague and Drs like you who are playing God.
Stick your bs where the sun don’t shine.
Competent professionals take your money whether they kill you or merely cripple you. Physicians and Doctors still have their moral compasses and will break a law to save their patients. Those doctors are hard to find.
First time in my 70+ years I've had to say this.
People should be given the best treatment. In this case the best treatment is MABs not convalescent. Do you make everything personal.
If I have a patient and MABs appropriate I will give that not convalescent plasma. When I discuss risks benefits and alternatives all would like the drug with superior efficacy instead of a weak therapy.
It has nothing to do with anything I approve or disapprove. The data are the data. MABs are highly effective. Convalescent plasma doesn’t do a whole hell of a lot. It was the first thing we had. But as with most things. We have better now.
I was never arguing about that.
I was arguing that patients and doctors should be allowed to make the decision and not be ruled by diktats from professional/career affirmative-action feral government bureaucrats/educrats.
And if somebody makes a decision once in awhile that you consider to be wrong, its the cost of freedom.
Can we at least agree on that much?
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