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Another "loophole" for Schumer to try to ram through the "voting rights" bills
Hot Air.com ^ | January 13, 2022 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 01/13/2022 7:02:28 AM PST by Kaslin

There’s a sense of panic setting in among Congressional Democrats in the wake of resident Joe Biden’s inflammatory speech about passing the two currently pending bills allegedly aimed at securing “voting rights.” Over at The Hill, the pair of measures were described last night as being “on the brink of defeat.” But like a magician who remains confident that he still has a couple more rabbits stuffed in his hat, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is cooking up a new plan to try to advance the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. Unable to attract any GOP support for the measures and without the votes in his own party to torpedo the filibuster, Schumer is reportedly planning to attempt an end run to get around those barriers. The scheme, which has been used before with other proposals, involves having the House use what’s known as a “shell bill” to shoehorn the measures through, sending the new package to the Senate in the form of a “question,” where debate could begin to concur with the measure. (Axios)

Democratic leaders have found a mechanism to enable them to bypass an initial Republican filibuster and debate the party’s sweeping election reform bills, according to a new leadership memo obtained by Axios…

Driving the news: The House is expected to take up an amendment in the coming days related to NASA leasing “underutilized” property to private groups. Democratic leaders are referring to this as the “shell bill.”

The use of the term “shell bill” is appropriate because what the Democrats are attempting is more akin to a shell game practiced by street hustlers than any sort of routine legislative process. Similar to the way that Democrats have repeatedly attempted to abuse the reconciliation process to force the BBB bill through, this strategy abuses another rule that was intended to streamline the consideration of bills that have broad support but include additional amendments that require the approval of both chambers.

In this case, a bill dealing with the rather mundane issue of NASA leasing out some property it no longer uses to commercial spacefaring entities will be turned into something entirely different. The bill, which probably would have passed into law without much discussion, will have all of its original, relevant langue stripped out as an “amendment,” to be replaced with the full text of the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.

The completely rewritten legislation, hiding under the guise of being an “amendment,” can then be sent to the Senate as “a message,” where the “amendment” can be advanced to the floor for debate with only a simple majority vote. So if the Democrats can get both Manchin and Sinema to go along with this scheme and bring in Kamala Harris to break the tie, the bill will reach the floor for debate.

This is the same tactic that was used last year for both the debt limit increase and the National Defense Authorization Act. I was a fan of the NDAA and recognized the need to pass it, but that was still a very dodgy way to push it through.

The problem with this plan is that it would only move the legislation to the point where it’s up for debate. At that point, the Senators can debate it to their hearts’ content, but it will still require sixty votes to end debate and move forward to a vote. Then they’ll be right back where they started. Unless they can torpedo the filibuster, there’s no way that they will get anywhere near 60.

In fact, there are serious questions as to whether or not they could even get fifty. These bills would do things like eliminating all voter ID laws in the country, laws that remain very popular with the voters in some states where vulnerable Democratic Senators will have to go home and explain this to their constituents. As Axios put it, there will be “insufficient support to change the 60-vote threshold needed to pass sweeping voting rights reforms.”

How many times do we need to see these tricks before everyone admits that the Democrats are just desperate and cheating? As I said, this is the same tactic they’ve been trying to use to warp the reconciliation process to pass Biden’s BBB act. And the Senate Parliamentarian has shot them down so many times that she’s becoming hoarse from yelling at them. That NASA bill was originally written with honest intentions and likely could have been signed into law. Now it’s being turned into a tool to pull off a con job. It’s all very disheartening.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chuckieschumer; filibuster; joemanchin; loophole; mitchmcconnell; votingrights
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1 posted on 01/13/2022 7:02:28 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Do it, you Communist sons of bitches. I’m gonna kick back and laugh when this quite literally blows up in your little tyrant faces. Don’t need a PhD in history to know what’s coming if you don’t back the Hell off.


2 posted on 01/13/2022 7:04:13 AM PST by quikstrike98
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To: quikstrike98

They cannot back off. They k ow they hang if they lose.


3 posted on 01/13/2022 7:06:35 AM PST by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles.)
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To: Kaslin

Cheater’s win voting bill


4 posted on 01/13/2022 7:06:57 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Kaslin

wasnt a similar thing done with obamacare when scott brown won the senate seat to replace kennedy?


5 posted on 01/13/2022 7:07:13 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: joshua c

Yeah. Remember the angry mob on the Mall when they passed Obamacare? And John Lewis whined and lied that someone spat on him? You’re gonna wish they were spitting on you next time.


6 posted on 01/13/2022 7:08:12 AM PST by quikstrike98
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To: Kaslin

So Dems are doing everything in their power to cheat and ram thru this fraudulent bill, yet we are to believe they didn’t cheat one iota in the election of 2020.


7 posted on 01/13/2022 7:08:51 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Kaslin

He is pissing in the political wind, everyone hates the idea.


8 posted on 01/13/2022 7:09:03 AM PST by mylife (You believe that ? You don't believe me? Unbelievable!)
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To: quikstrike98

“Don’t need a PhD in history to know what’s coming if you don’t back the Hell off.”

I don’t see a downside for the Dems if they try this. Are you implying that the GOP will suddenly grow a spine and use it against the Dems? Or that the public will pay attention and disapprove?


9 posted on 01/13/2022 7:09:25 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: Kaslin

Loophole or not, it still requires the filibuster to be nuked.

I love all the click porn over this issue. Sorry after story on “loopholes” and “what if.” All useless and missing the only thing that counts. Do they have the votes to nuke the filibuster? whatever Manchin and Sienema are saying is the most relevant. All else is silly distraction.


10 posted on 01/13/2022 7:10:46 AM PST by FlipWilson
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Sorry. If they federally codify election fraud, it’s game-on.

I will not stand for it.

I need several million people to join me.


11 posted on 01/13/2022 7:11:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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Loophole or not, it still requires the filibuster to be nuked.

Respectfully: No it doesn't. If Manchin and Sinema vote for the Codified Election Fraud bill, the Democrats can make this happen. The NDAA, and reportedly, the so-called 'Affordable Care Act' were instituted this way.

12 posted on 01/13/2022 7:13:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: brownsfan

Just gotta listen to the chatter in the background. Would appear to me that a lot of people have decided their line in the sand is the filibuster.


13 posted on 01/13/2022 7:13:58 AM PST by quikstrike98
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To: Kaslin

The Dems are good at this. Giving a crappy piece of legislation a nice-sounding name: “voting rights” – we’re all for “voting rights” aren’t we?


14 posted on 01/13/2022 7:14:26 AM PST by vortigern
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To: FlipWilson

Oops. Upon more detailed reading of this article, it appears I am incorrect and you are correct.

And I hate you for that.

:^)


15 posted on 01/13/2022 7:14:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Kaslin

Communism: You vote your way in but you have to shoot your way out....................


16 posted on 01/13/2022 7:15:45 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Kaslin

Well, just to waste some bandwidth/whatever, I notified my two useless hairy reed supported senators that they need to oppose this crap legislation. Boiler plate responses expected any time now. Yeah, I know he’s dead but his influence is still alive and kicking.


17 posted on 01/13/2022 7:16:21 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: quikstrike98

“Would appear to me that a lot of people have decided their line in the sand is the filibuster.”

That’s possible. I’ve heard it mentioned more than once that there are a lot of Dem Senators who are against messing with the filibuster, and are glad Manchin and Sinema are taking the heat so they don’t have to go on record.

But, we have radical leftists running the Dem party, so anything is possible.


18 posted on 01/13/2022 7:21:34 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s just another “deem and pass” trick.

Because they have an aversion to regular legislative order. Because their agenda items wouldn’t survive.

They’re holding on to power by their bare fingernails.


19 posted on 01/13/2022 7:22:17 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Kaslin

Don’t we already have a right to vote in this country? Rhetorical question.


20 posted on 01/13/2022 7:22:36 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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