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Chuck Schumer's filibuster dodge for voting rights just may work- The Democrats' plan gets past one of two likely GOP filibusters without changing the rules.
MSNBC ^ | Jan. 13, 2022 | Hayes Brown

Posted on 01/13/2022 1:02:43 PM PST by redguyinabluestate

In a Wednesday memo to Democrats, Schumer promised to employ a process called “messages between the houses” to get both bills onto the Senate floor.

If you’re asking yourself, “What are ‘messages between the houses?’” you aren’t alone. Rules wonk that I am, I’d never heard of this process. But here’s the short version: Before a bill can become a law, the House and Senate both have to agree on the wording of that bill. Most of us are familiar with the two chambers putting together a conference committee to hammer out the differences in language — though these have been rare in recent years, as more and more obstruction has become the norm.

An alternate method uses “messages between the houses” to pass amendments to bills back and forth. “Each house has one opportunity to amend the amendments from the other house, so there can be Senate amendments to House amendments to Senate amendments to a House bill,” the Congressional Research Service explained. What’s important for this current situation, though, is that amendments from the House are considered “privileged,” which means they can be put before the Senate without debate. That, in turn, means there’s no opportunity for Republicans to filibuster bringing the amended bill to the floor.

This leads us to the play from Schumer and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. The two Democratic leaders have picked a bill that has already been passed back and forth several times: one on NASA. The House will pass “an amendment in the nature of a substitute,” essentially deleting the entirety of the original text and replacing it with the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. (The House Rules Committee met on Wednesday night to get that process started.)

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: filibuster; msdnc; mslsd; msnbc; pelosi; pmsnbc; schumer; sidebarabuse
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1 posted on 01/13/2022 1:02:43 PM PST by redguyinabluestate
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To: redguyinabluestate

Schumer could also use pixie dust to get Manchin and Sinema on board.


2 posted on 01/13/2022 1:03:38 PM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: redguyinabluestate

Anything that keeps another Trump riff-raff out of office is fine with the RINO establishment.


3 posted on 01/13/2022 1:04:08 PM PST by blackdog (# We Are Corn-Pop)
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To: redguyinabluestate

We will elect Republicans in 2022 who will only play nice with the democrats...


4 posted on 01/13/2022 1:04:30 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ("Thank you, Mr. Epps", said Rep. Adam Kinzinger.)
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To: redguyinabluestate

Because pmsnbc is so trustworthy

Just another wet dream


5 posted on 01/13/2022 1:05:13 PM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: redguyinabluestate
The House will pass “an amendment in the nature of a substitute,” essentially deleting the entirety of the original text and replacing it with the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.

Lawlessness.


6 posted on 01/13/2022 1:06:01 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: redguyinabluestate

So they have to play games to try to pass something they say the country desperately wants?


7 posted on 01/13/2022 1:06:39 PM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: 1Old Pro

“Schumer could also use pixie dust to get Manchin and Sinema on board.”

If I understand this correctly, this is not to end the filibuster. This is to enact the “voting rights” cheat. As Dems, I fear Manchin and Sinema would sign on to that.


8 posted on 01/13/2022 1:06:50 PM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: redguyinabluestate
"There’s the Big Jew, Let’s Get Him!"

(Quoting Schumer)

9 posted on 01/13/2022 1:07:00 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: redguyinabluestate

Even if they do manage to get it past the senate, look for any state where it makes a difference to immediately tie it up in court on Constitutional grounds.


10 posted on 01/13/2022 1:08:24 PM PST by farmguy
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If I understand this correctly, this is not to end the filibuster. This is to enact the “voting rights” cheat. As Dems, I fear Manchin and Sinema would sign on to that.

They need to suspend or carve out the filibuster to pass it, both said they won't do that to pass it even though they may support the bill.

11 posted on 01/13/2022 1:08:43 PM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: redguyinabluestate

*yawn*

the more red meat for their base, to give them “hope”

but it’s all for nothing, this isn’t going to happen, ignore this.


12 posted on 01/13/2022 1:08:55 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: redguyinabluestate

We’re just going to let Kalifornia decide our elections? I don’t think so


13 posted on 01/13/2022 1:10:01 PM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

We all hope you are correct...but ignore what they say or do at your own risk.


14 posted on 01/13/2022 1:11:17 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Magnum44

The House will pass “an amendment in the nature of a substitute,” essentially deleting the entirety of the original text and replacing it with the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.
/\

Gee, that sounds ricoish.

Conspiracy to subvert legal process?

Aren’t they prosecuting the 1/6 ers for that ?

.


15 posted on 01/13/2022 1:11:47 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The moment I think some hairbrained leftist scheme won’t pass, I get gobsmacked


16 posted on 01/13/2022 1:12:03 PM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: redguyinabluestate

Corrupt Politicians Act - bump for later.....


17 posted on 01/13/2022 1:13:51 PM PST by indthkr
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To: cuz1961

18 posted on 01/13/2022 1:14:11 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Agreed. One phrase comes to mind:

“Sauce for the goose….”

We may not really like McConnell, but he does pay attention.


19 posted on 01/13/2022 1:14:20 PM PST by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: Magnum44

Could explain why there are concrete barriers once again being erected around parts of the White House.

They really do want to go full “in your face” hostile assault on this, damn the consequences - because they realize they are going to get totally creamed in November unless they can get this Federalization of voting fraud passed. That is literally the only thing that will save them from getting swept from office in one of the biggest Blue purges in any of our lifetimes.


20 posted on 01/13/2022 1:15:53 PM PST by jstolzen
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