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Why Ukraine Matters to America
Townhall.com ^ | January 20, 2022 | D.W. Wilber

Posted on 01/20/2022 7:00:39 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: skeeter

I don’t trust a military run by low IQ goose stepping fools like General Austin. Sorry, no sale.

And the white liberal elites running DC? I would trust General Austin more than that bunch of pretentious A-holes...

PROTECT OUR BORDERS BIDEN & COMMIE THUGS RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE. IF YOU WANT TO ‘PROTECT UKRAINE’ SEND YOUR OWN SONS AND DAUGHTERS, WIVES AND MOTHERS... eff YOU Biden.


81 posted on 01/20/2022 9:30:46 AM PST by GOPJ (Who will Biden blame for his problems today? What commie thuggery will Biden impose on Americans?)
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To: Kaslin

America stands for freedom? Has the writer taken a look around here lately?


82 posted on 01/20/2022 9:32:21 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Jim Noble

Good sarcasm is something to be savored.

Thanks.

L


83 posted on 01/20/2022 9:41:49 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Kaisersrsic
Ukraine matters to DC 'elites' because their whore mongering, drug addicted assh*le children can go there and shake down the locals for big cash...Just ask the 'big guy' Biden and his whole 'hand out' thug family. Ask the commmies running the White House...

Then the whore mongers and shakedown artists are protected by corrupt FBI thugs... ASK JOE HOW THAT WORKS

NO, OUR PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO DIE FOR THESE ASSHOLES. PROTECT OUR BORDERS...

Hello 'President' of the Untied State and his filthy traitor son Hunter Biden and all his private school DC buddies... doing the same.

84 posted on 01/20/2022 9:42:14 AM PST by GOPJ (Who will Biden blame for his problems today? What commie thuggery will Biden impose on Americans?)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t
Care
Stay
Out


85 posted on 01/20/2022 9:44:50 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: DesertRhino

So you believe the Zimmermann Telegram was a phony ?


86 posted on 01/20/2022 9:45:45 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: Kaslin
Hell no, we won't go!!!

I learned that from the anti Vietnam war protesters.

87 posted on 01/20/2022 9:49:45 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: CaptainCarrollton

I don’t know any neo-cons, personally, or of any that were agitating for war against Russia. If you’d give me a name of one of them, other than Straw-man McGee, we could talk about it. Good on Russia that they defended the Christians against ISIS.

The notion of one nuclear power going to war against another is a very very bad idea. Instead, what we’ve learned to do is back proxies in contests over spheres of influence. Back in 1967, Israel proved its worth as a proxy for America by beating Soviet proxies Egypt, Syria and Jordan in just six days, making the Soviets look foolish. Prior to that, in 1956, Israel, in partnership with UK and France, made short work of Egypt, but Ike was having none of it, and ordered them to back off, or he’d step in and do the work of making them back off, rather than have the embarrassment of Russia stomping on them. Israel not a proven proxy then, and UK and France reasserting their imperial ambitions of yesteryear was not welcome with Eisenhower. They all three backed off.

So, too, with Ukraine. It’s a proxy for the West generally, and that means America as the head. It can duke it out with a diminished Russia as a proxy, and the West should help them. But for America to step into the conflict would be a bad idea. instead, give them weapons and intelligence, and other good stuff, and wish them luck. Russia reasserting itself now is as bad as the UK and France reasserting themselves in 1956.

Like it or not, the United States is a world player, but it’s the biggest world player, and da’sn’t go around stomping all over the globe, getting stuck in morasses. Instead it should support proxies to deal with local bullies such as Russia and China.

Would Miyagi step into Danny Russo’s tournament and fight for him? No. Just train and coach him, heal his booboo with his hand clap thing, etc. Same deal, except it entails anti-tank missiles and other goodies.


89 posted on 01/20/2022 12:26:48 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: Lurker

“You need to learn about logistics”

I’m trying hard to forget.


90 posted on 01/20/2022 12:53:00 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: Kaslin

bump


91 posted on 01/20/2022 2:45:57 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If science can’t be questioned, it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda. --Aaron Rodgers)
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To: CaptainCarrollton

“Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Kasich, Chris Christie, Lindsey Graham, and many more all wanted the defense of Christians to be stopped immediately and for the USA to use our military to prevent the Russians from defending the Christians.”

Well, then, buck the lot of ‘em. Russia, while often evil as they come, is also an empire that stands for something. And what it stands for is sometimes constructive and good. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I was unaware that those lot had such a horrible attitude. That’s not only stupid, it’s plain unjust and wrong.

The British empire likewise did great things and horrible things, just like the Russians, the Chinese, the French, the Romans and Greeks. America is also not blameless throughout its history. It is on a straighter, more consistent path towards perfecting itself than any prior empire, but there’s no denying the facts and past atrocities.

You can’t go with absolutes. Then you end up like those twisted f@#$s teaching CRT. “America had slavery once. And massacred Indians. Therefore, it’s totally evil and has to be replaced with real communism, which has never been tried before. Tear down all the statues and start over again.”


93 posted on 01/20/2022 3:19:24 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: CaptainCarrollton

There are Maronite Christian schools in northern Israel that teach Aramaic (second to Arabic and Hebrew, of course).

The Greek Orthodox in Israel do not like the increasingly pro-Israel attitudes among Aramaic Christians.


95 posted on 01/20/2022 3:35:55 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Kaslin

So why does it matter to Americans what happens in Ukraine? It matters to me because as Americans we have always tried to portray ourselves as the beacon of freedom in the world. We’ve been willing to go to war to protect and preserve our own liberties, and have fought to spread the message of freedom around the planet.

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That America no longer exists. That America died back in the 90s. When Clinton was president.

And Clinton’s, Bush’s and Obama‘s war in Afghanistan has only served to drive home the point that America is not the worlds policeman. We can’t even solve our own national problems. Certainly not able to deal with international concerns.


97 posted on 01/20/2022 4:30:11 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Wilbur ... CIA.

Townhall publishing this says too much about Townhall


98 posted on 01/20/2022 9:52:00 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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To: Little Ray

USA will do nothing because no one is going to dare to put American boys in trenches in the middle of winter on the Ukrainian/Russian front. Putin will take advantage of it. Ultimately, I don’t think he’ll do that much other than to annex Russian speaking provinces in Ukraine. The government in Kiev will remain intact, the country will just become smaller.


99 posted on 01/20/2022 9:55:24 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: NorseViking
I wonder has anyone talking Budapest memorandum ever read it? Paragraph 4 regarding guarantees stipulates the involvement of signatories IF THE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST UKRAINE IS USED. Was it?

Comrade, when you ask about reading the Budapest Memorandum, you can’t mention Paragraph 4 because everyone on FreeRepublic then knows to read Paragraphs 1, 2, and 3. I’m sure you know what they say.

As rivals Russia and the USA can make each other strong, but if you take Ukraine who will stop Poland from becoming a Nuclear state? That isn’t our problem. Ukraine matters because neither Russia nor the USA control all of the potential consequences.

100 posted on 01/20/2022 9:57:54 PM PST by Kaisersrsic
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