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Tales about Ted Kennedy, in case anyone’s actually interested
HowieCarrShow.com ^ | February 14, 2022 | Howie Carr

Posted on 02/14/2022 5:53:50 AM PST by billorites

I got an email this week from a former bow-tied bum kisser at the Globe about a book he’s writing on Fat Boy — the late Sen. Ted Kennedy.

“My editors have asked me, in this Me Too era, to make sure that I have done a thorough search for incidents in which Sen. Kennedy’s behavior caused injury or harm to women.”

Wow. Talk about an open-ended order. The hagiographer, er biographer, mentioned that the usual incidents — Chappaquiddick, Palm Beach, La Brasserie — will “of course” rate chapters in his tome.

Of course they will.

“I am writing to see if you had been sent, or collected, reliable information on other incidents of untoward behavior that you believe I should pursue.”

First of all, pal, get copies of my two books on America’s “First Family,” “Kennedy Babylon: A Century of Scandal and Depravity,” Vols. 1 and 2, for sale at howiecarrshow.com/store.

When it comes to Kennedy behavior, I’d describe those volumes as “seminal,” except for that word’s derivation, if you get my drift. Kinda like describing the JFK presidency as “Camelot.”

Anyway, I forwarded the email to Gayle Fee, the last gossip columnist at this newspaper, who broke innumerable scandals about the family in general and Fat Boy in particular.

“The problem I always found,” she said, “was that you could never get anyone to go on — or off — the record about his bad behavior because they were either afraid or paid off or both …”

Exactly, Gayle. We all had that same problem.

Here’s one I never wrote about, until now. It’s second-hand, so it’s hearsay. But I believe it. A woman I went to college with had a close female friend who after Bobby’s assassination in 1968 worked briefly one summer as one of Ethel Kennedy’s nannies.

Teddy was often lurking around, playing the role of caring uncle, but at the same time, usually drunk as a skunk.

One afternoon in the early 1970’s, this young woman was down in the basement at Hickory Hill, rummaging around for a toy or something for one of the kids. Suddenly she heard a noise behind her. She turned around and saw the Liberal Lion, a drink in one hand, his swimsuit down around his ankles, swaying a bit, with a full … well, you know.

Horrified, she ran upstairs and immediately quit. Ethel lost more nannies that way.

How about the conversations on the Nixon White House tapes about Teddy’s alcoholism, and his abominable behavior at the Carlyle Hotel in New York, the site of so many Kennedy family orgies, some documented in FBI files.

At one point, Henry Kissinger tells Nixon how Teddy drunkenly chased an heiress up to her room and began beating on her door, demanding to be let in. She finally asked through the locked door, what happens if the newspapers find out about your behavior.

Kissinger told Nixon that this is what Fat Boy, drunk and in heat, responded: “No newspapers are going to print anything about me. I’ve got that covered.”

He was right about that, wasn’t he? At least when it comes to the Boston Globe.

Since the guy says he’s going to do a chapter on Chappaquiddick, he might include a little more background on Mary Jo Kopechne than most of these worshipful tracts dare to print.

Her first employer in Washington was Sen. George Smathers of Florida. Pre-Castro, Smathers and JFK used to travel to Havana together and patronize the Mob’s brothels, owned by gangsters Meyer Lansky and Santo Trafficante Jr. The hoods used to watch the senators in flagrante delicto, on the other side of the two-way mirrors they had installed in their bodello.

This is all on the record in T.J. English’s book, “Havana Nocturne,” easily available online. English is still around.

When Mary Jo was working for Smathers, her landlord was Bobby Baker, a longtime fixer in the Senate for Lyndon Johnson who later went to prison.

In addition to his, uh, duties for LBJ, Baker ran a “club” out of a D.C. hotel that offered an array of his own high-end ladies of the evening, one of whom was a gorgeous Elizabeth Taylor lookalike named Ellen Rometsch.

Baker introduced, shall we say, Rometsch to JFK. The president was so impressed with her services that he called Baker and thanked him for providing the hooker who JFK said had given him the best, uh, Lewinsky he had ever enjoyed.

A couple of months later, the suspected East German spy was deported. They had to get rid of her because Senate Republicans were sniffing around. RFK begged FBI boss J. Edgar Hoover to shut down the probe, and he did, in his usual way, threatening to release his XXX-rated blackmail material against senators of both parties.

I mention this only in context of the social circles in which Mary Jo Kopechne ran before Ted Kennedy drowned her, the first confirmed kill in the War on Women.

Any honest biographer of Ted would certainly want to recount all of this, I’m sure.

One last point: to put the whole Palm Beach scene into context, perhaps the scribe should mention how segregated PB was back in the days when the Kennedys were running amok.

Here’s a direct quote from National Review, in the April 10, 1962 issue, which no one has ever disputed: “No Negro is permitted to own a home in the President’s winter town.”

One more point, germane to both Palm Beach and Chappaquiddick, now that I think about it. After killing Mary Jo, one of the first calls Teddy made the next morning was to another of his girlfriends, Helga Wagner.

He needed the phone number of his brother-in-law, Steve Smith, the family fixer, who happened to be the father of William Kennedy Smith.

Willie was Teddy’s nephew, who was accused of raping the blue-dot woman at the family mansion in Palm Beach, Comfortably Numb by the Sea, in 1991.

Helga Wagner is still around. She’s given interviews to People magazine. Her West Palm Beach jewelry shop has a listed phone number.

I hope this has been helpful to the bow-tied bumkisser emeritus. It’s the least I could do for a fellow hack.


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To: FLT-bird

When great tv shows like TMZ show the court tapes where the woman is tearfully regaling her brief sexual association with one of her “now he’s not my friend “ partner, the film will usually have a blue dot 🔵 over her face. Only her friends and associates will recognize her voice.

Rape trials and assaults in general are not ever televised.


21 posted on 02/14/2022 7:08:15 AM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable.STILL)
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To: Wallace T.

A basic conservative belief in the early 1960s was need for Balanced Budgets. And based on that they opposed JFKs tax cuts. Bob Novak reported this debate at the time and it’s described in his memoir. It wasn’t a conservative policy until Reagan adopted it during the 1980 campaign.

Likewise the idea that Kennedy was eager to get out of Vietnam is nonsense. He had just instigated a coup that got Diem assassinated, not what you do when you’re trying to extricate yourself from that mess


22 posted on 02/14/2022 7:12:11 AM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Fido969

The trial was televised. The victim had a dot covering her face during televised coverage of the trial.


23 posted on 02/14/2022 7:17:25 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team sco uts photo-op locations.)
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To: quilterdebbie

Michael Kennedy, accused of raping the 14 year old family babysitter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_LeMoyne_Kennedy#:~:text=Kennedy%20died%20on%20December%2031,helmet%20or%20other%20safety%20equipment.


24 posted on 02/14/2022 7:19:54 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team sco uts photo-op locations.)
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To: drSteve78

The William Kennedy Smith rape trial was televised. I watched it. Teddy even testified.


25 posted on 02/14/2022 7:22:33 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team sco uts photo-op locations.)
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To: dead

They didn’t shoot enough Kennedys.


26 posted on 02/14/2022 7:30:40 AM PST by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: bankwalker

Yup. He wrote that bill.


27 posted on 02/14/2022 7:31:14 AM PST by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: billorites
"William Kennedy Smith"
"Willie was Teddy’s nephew, who was accused of raping the blue-dot woman at the family mansion in Palm Beach, Comfortably Numb by the Sea, in 1991."


THIS is the guy I was trying to remember.. I was stationed at Homestead AFB, and the news was all over it (and the news-choppers kept flying over their gated mansion). But I couldn't remember his darn name.
Never did find out what happened to him after that.
28 posted on 02/14/2022 7:43:40 AM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Wallace T.

I would never say he was conservative, but he sure was more right than most Repub politicians now.


29 posted on 02/14/2022 7:45:48 AM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: billorites

Recall Ted’s run against Carter’s re-election in ‘79. He was speaking to Iowa farmers at a grain facility when he turned and looked out T the rail tracks and asked “how’s the service out here on the Wabash?”

This puzzled the Iowegians since it had been more than 100 years since the Wabash served Iowa...


30 posted on 02/14/2022 7:47:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.q at)
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To: PghBaldy

Thanks. I had not heard about that one.


31 posted on 02/14/2022 7:48:49 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: Pelham

JFK changed his mind on many issues in a very short period of time—his Vietnam policy was all over the place.

Further adding to the confusion was a CIA under Allen Dulles that had a habit of “going rogue” from time to time—and had a tendency to “present a narrative” rather than “just the facts”.

There is some evidence (debatable, but some evidence) that JFK had his doubts about Vietnam policy by 1963—after he had fired Allen Dulles.


32 posted on 02/14/2022 7:51:08 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Wallace T.
There has been something of an alt-right and even mainstream conservative rewrite of the Kennedys. especially JFK and JFK, Jr., where the former is seen as a closet conservative due to his tax cut advocacy and reluctance to get involved in the Vietnam debacle

I don't think JFK was a closet conservative. The 'rat party in those days was simply more conservative than it later became. Back then one could be anti-communist and democrat. Now the democrats are the communists.

33 posted on 02/14/2022 7:53:23 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Carl Vehse

The Kennedy Crime Family
The Clinton Crime Famliy
The Biden Crime Family

A Demonicrat trend.

Why stop there?

The Kerry Crime Family
The Pelosi Crime Family
....on and on


34 posted on 02/14/2022 7:57:08 AM PST by Swirl
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To: PghBaldy

Ok, thanks for posting. I heard about that. Horrible! Grown man having “affair” (too nice a word) with 14-year-old babysitter. Too bad he wasn’t punished.


35 posted on 02/14/2022 8:00:01 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: Bikkuri
JFK and indeed almost all politicians in the 1960s were more socially conservative than most politicians are today. Abortion was illegal in every state, divorce was difficult in most states, pornography, while de facto legal due to the Warren Supreme Court, was condemned. Homosexual marriage would be considered absurd, and adoption of children by homosexual couples was properly regarded as child abuse.

However, the 1960s era liberal was definitely not an economic conservative. The Democrats of that era supported confiscatory income taxes, mandatory union membership, high minimum wages, and strict regulation of industry and commerce. Both the Goldwater and Rockefeller wings of the GOP were more free market oriented. The Rockefeller wing, ancestor of today's RINOs, did not want to repeal the New Deal or the Fair Deal. Even Reagan touched neither FDR/Truman era legislation, nor LBJ's Great Society and Nixon's EPA and OSHA. Ditto for Trump.

If JFK were alive today, and he would be 104 years old if he were, he would be at least a social conservative, unless, like countless other liberal politicians, he "evolved" into the liberal position du jour.

36 posted on 02/14/2022 8:31:49 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: billorites

I hope he talked with all those congressional ‘Pages’ that were there when he was wasting oxygen.


37 posted on 02/14/2022 8:49:42 AM PST by Conservative4Life (thy merchants were great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Rev18:23)
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To: PghBaldy

My son knows the babysitter pretty well. Her family lived in our town and many people speculated that the girl”s father had Michael “taken out” so to speak. Yes, he was killed in a skiing accident but did he actually slam into that tree by accident.
As an aside, Michael’s daughter has also suffered from the Kennedy curse. She is now confined to a wheelchair.


38 posted on 02/14/2022 9:04:08 AM PST by surrey
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To: billorites

You know this still is going on.
Biden and son are pedophiles and traitors, The clintons, obamas, mitch mcconnell pelosis feinstein, many more etc.

FTA: They had to get rid of her because Senate Republicans were sniffing around. RFK begged FBI boss J. Edgar Hoover to shut down the probe, and he did, in his usual way, threatening to release his XXX-rated blackmail material against senators of both parties.


39 posted on 02/14/2022 1:26:14 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more hash brown patties! )
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To: billorites

“When Mary Jo was working for Smathers, her landlord was Bobby Baker, a longtime fixer in the Senate for Lyndon Johnson who later went to prison.”

So Mary Jo was one of Bobby Baker’s honey traps. Which makes it especially interesting that John Dean asked the FBI to start investigating her travel to Greece in October 1969, Dean’s future wife part of the prostitution ring being run out of the office of Kennedy associate Larry O’Brien. What the FBI found out is deleted from the publicly available files.


40 posted on 02/14/2022 1:58:34 PM PST by Fedora
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