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To: higgmeister
Were does this idiocy come from?

Ukraine is an independent nation state. Putin has no moral, legal or intellectual justification to invade because he dislikes their foreign policy.

Take for example Cuba. Cuba has been a Russian client state 90 miles from the US coast since the 1960s. Despite not liking the situation the US has no legal, moral or intellectual grounds to invade Cuba

As for the idiocy "what about the Cuban missile crisis". That was about offensive nuclear missiles being placed in Cuba. That posed a direct offense threat to the USA. That was resolved, after a show of force by the US brought the Russian to negotiate, by diplomacy.

The US removed their missiles from Turkey in exchanged for Russia removing their from Cuba

57 posted on 02/28/2022 6:30:19 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie
" Were does this idiocy come from?"

Indeed. I suppose the Cold War was just a big misunderstanding, and or Putin just wants peace, vs. at least some (back to the) USSR former glory.

Timeline of Soviet takeover of Eastern Europe

CountryYearMethods used
Albania1945A communist government took power at the end of World War Two.
Bulgaria1946In 1946 the Bulgarian monarchy was abolished and later that year a communist government was elected and gradually eradicated its opponents.
East Germany1945East Germany was part of the Soviet zone of occupation agreed at the Yalta Conference and in 1945 the Soviets set up a communist regime.
Romania1945In the 1945 elections, a communist-led coalition (made up of more than one political party) government was elected. The Communists gradually removed their coalition partners and abolished the Romanian monarchy.
Poland1947Fearing that a non-communist government would be elected in 1947, Stalin invited 16 non-communist politicians to Moscow, where they were arrested. With their political opponents removed, the Polish communists won the election.
Hungary1948Although non-communists won the 1945 election, a communist politician, Rakosi, took control of the secret police and used it to arrest and execute his political opponents. By 1948 the Communist Party was in complete control of the country.
Czechoslovakia1948Czechoslovakia was the last country in Eastern Europe to fully fall to communism in 1948. At elections that year only communists were allowed to stand and a communist government was duly elected.

-https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zt8ncwx/revision/7

59 posted on 02/28/2022 6:53:03 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Putin has no moral, legal or intellectual justification to invade because he dislikes their foreign policy.

You need to open your eyes.   Do you even think about the things you type?

We invaded or occupied Grenada, Panama, Dominican Republic (more then once), we sent troops to Lebanon (more then once).   We invaded Kuwait to kick-out Iraq.

You know about Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan.   It is worth mentioning the Philippine Insurrection, the "Punitive Expedition in Mexico with the six month occupation of Veracruz, Mexico and the almost one year U. S. Army operations in Mexico, The Spanish American War when we falsely blamed Spain for an explosion in the USS Maine, and don't forget we bombed all heck out of Libya.   I remember our troops went into Somalia, Mogadishu and Haiti.   Lots more earlier than these when our country was still young.

I'm not saying any of that was wrong, just that your argument that "Putin has no moral, legal or intellectual justification to invade because he dislikes their foreign policy" is crazy.

Oh, and your example of what we wouldn't about Cuba?

Despite not liking the situation the US has no legal, moral or intellectual grounds to invade Cuba

You should remember the failed Bay of Pigs invasion into Cuba was our expedition authorized and approved by President Kennedy and planned, funded, staffed, and trained by the CIA.

74 posted on 03/01/2022 12:09:57 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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