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Experts: Alleged plot against governor signals ominous shift
The Associated Press ^ | March 6, 2022 | By JOHN FLESHER (D-AP)

Posted on 03/06/2022 7:50:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. (AP) — They railed against politicians, conducted military-style exercises and spoke darkly of confronting tyrants scheming to seize their guns and enslave them.

Yet historian JoEllen Vinyard says the “citizen militia” activists she got to know in the 1990s didn’t seem like the types who would abduct a governor or stage a coup.

“I don’t think they were dangerous,” said Vinyard, an Eastern Michigan University professor emeritus and author of a book about far-right movements in the state. “They reminded me of the good old boys I knew growing up in Nebraska.”

But as four men charged with conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer go on trial Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Grand Rapids, Vinyard and other political extremism scholars say things have changed in recent years.

In contrast to militants from before, who mostly avoided bloodshed with the horrific exception of the Oklahoma City bombing, some modern successors have taken a more radical and potentially violent turn.

“This is a different type of domestic terrorism phenomenon than we’ve faced in previous decades — completely different from anything I’ve observed,” said Javed Ali, a University of Michigan professor who served with the FBI and intelligence agencies.

They’ve kept a somewhat lower profile since the kidnapping arrests and the invasion of the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters seeking to overturn the 2020 election, said Rachel Goldwasser, a research analyst with the nonprofit Southern Poverty Law Center.

The outcome of the Michigan conspiracy trial, she said, may “indicate whether they stay in their foxholes or come out as a force in public again.”

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BLM? Antifa? DNC? SPLC? Organizing for Action?
1 posted on 03/06/2022 7:50:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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Uh, I believe that the plot was by leftists, not intelligent folks. But, it's the AP, so read with a grain of salt pile of turds.
2 posted on 03/06/2022 7:52:22 AM PST by Da Coyote
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BLM? Antifa? DNC? SPLC? Organizing for Action?

Mostly peaceful, so I'm told.
3 posted on 03/06/2022 7:52:48 AM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
AP is nothing but a propaganda mouthpiece, similar to The Washington Post being a CIA controlled conduit.

Trust no AP content.
4 posted on 03/06/2022 7:53:21 AM PST by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More BS gaslighting from the gaslight media. The “plot” was hatched and mostly perpetrated by the criminals at the FBI. (Including some literal criminals, i.e. actually being charged.)


5 posted on 03/06/2022 7:53:22 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

fbi. Known 🐂💩 story.


6 posted on 03/06/2022 7:55:24 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Exactly. FBI and FBI informants hatched the plot and got a few morons to go along. So the get charged and probably sent down the river, media makes a mountain out of a molehill, FBI looks like they’re doing something useful.


7 posted on 03/06/2022 7:56:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can’t believe they’re still gonna try to pimp this phony, FBI led plot against MI’s nasty governor.


8 posted on 03/06/2022 7:56:23 AM PST by skeeter
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Almost everyone involved in OKC was a government informant with the exception of the two guys convicted.


9 posted on 03/06/2022 7:56:45 AM PST by marron
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Now the Asspress regurgitates proven lies for its smears. Obama legalizing propaganda causes them to happily do this.


10 posted on 03/06/2022 7:57:18 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As another old boy who grew in Nebraska might have said, they failed to git ‘er done.


11 posted on 03/06/2022 7:57:37 AM PST by bigbob
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Occupy Femocrats... 🤣


12 posted on 03/06/2022 7:58:46 AM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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A Muslim “professor” concerned about evil White men getting violent?

Beyond hilarious. Is he the ISIS minister of propaganda?


13 posted on 03/06/2022 8:00:40 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Formerly Been Intelligent [They can legally lie to you, but not you to them. There is a truth diode in the Legal System.]
14 posted on 03/06/2022 8:01:10 AM PST by Paladin2
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The FBI informants repeatedly referred to the head of this plot as ‘’ Captain Autism.’’ This entire episode was another example of the FBI stringing along a bunch of losers who on their own could barely hold a job, let alone implement this.


15 posted on 03/06/2022 8:01:23 AM PST by ALX
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they’re still gonna try to pimp this phony, FBI led plot

Well stated.

16 posted on 03/06/2022 8:04:38 AM PST by tomkat ( SOTU = FUBAR )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Gee, when you have the AP reporting the opinions of experts, it would be hard to imagine a higher plateau of credibility./s


17 posted on 03/06/2022 8:19:15 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ass Press strikes again!


18 posted on 03/06/2022 8:22:43 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: coloradan

“More BS gaslighting from the gaslight media. The “plot” was hatched and mostly perpetrated by the criminals at the FBI. (Including some literal criminals, i.e. actually being charged.)”

...and yet we believe this same media when it comes to telling us about Ukraine, including what led to the war there?


19 posted on 03/06/2022 8:27:37 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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“Almost everyone involved in OKC was a government informant with the exception of the two guys convicted.”

I didn’t know that, how many others were there and why wasn’t it stopped?


20 posted on 03/06/2022 8:28:50 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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