Posted on 03/14/2022 9:54:01 AM PDT by FarCenter
“Threaten our homeland, our way of life, and most importantly our leader, and yes, we will nuke the sh-t of out you. I guarantee it.” That’s what a senior retired Russian diplomat told me on the sidelines of a Track 2.0 dialogue in 2012 when I asked him what would happen during a NATO-Russian war or a threat to the Russian government itself.
He was pretty clear: Threats Russia’s sovereignty, ability to control its territory, run its economy—and most of all, ensure leadership survival—were all things it might go to nuclear war over. Isn’t that what we are doing today regarding the Ukraine crisis?
While surely we should do all we can to help Ukraine in its time of need, we should also ask how far are we willing to go. To be clear, we are putting a historic amount of pressure on Russia, more than some countries endure in a real, kinetic war. In the months to come, that pressure will have a combined impact, and we have not stopped at all to consider the ramifications.
In fact, we have chosen by accident a new de facto Ukraine strategy. It’s so terrifying and stupid that it’s never been tried before on a nuclear-armed superpower capable of ending nearly all human life in 30 minutes.
The West’s undeclared goal is simple: Putin has to go. Or, Putin has to die, as some on right are now cheerleading.
Yes, that means regime change, wrapped in all its fantastical failures, is making a comeback in Washington, and no one seems to notice or even care. No one also seems to understand that’s our new goal now, what that means, the ramifications for our world—like full-blown nuclear war if we push Putin too far into the geopolitical gutter.
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US strategy?! Makes me laugh.
They used to tease GWB about strategery. Heck, Biden makes GWB look like Patton.
What would neocons say if China put missiles on the borders of an independent / breakaway Quebec?
Don’t worry - its not offensive. And besides, you have no right to have any voice in what an independent Quebec decides.
Besides, USA President Don Trump Jr. is a corrupt and unpopular dictator, who we will attempt to overthrow and will sanction all his supporters.
This is why we shifted the ground under Russian tanks, to make it look like they were invading Ukraine.
I guess the “elites” thinking goes somewhat like....
“We made so much out of the Ukraine, think how much can be siphoned from Russia!”
I hope Putin is not re-elected. But I don’t like to talk about “regime changes” in reference to nations which have elections. A satisfactory “regime change” would MERELY mean someone else replace him. Hell, I’d be quite satisfied with Medvedev.
RE: The West’s Real Ukraine Strategy Is Russian Regime Change
I read the title and just chuckled. with Biden at the helm, I don’t know if we even have a “strategy”.
But a change in Russia’s regime is a very lovely thought. I’m not sure if it’s entirely achievable.
Yep no way to pull off the Great Reset unless Russia can be brought to heel.
Oh screw the Russian regime.
They may actually envision toppling Putin as a means to the end of justifying and sanctifying their Russia, Russia, Russia anti-Trump hoax. These history books don’t write themselves, people!
Nature is doing a regime change in Russia. Steroid pumpkin head Putin will soon be worm food.
Really. This guy could stumble trying to walk over a mudpuddle and there would be those extolling said “strategy”.
RE: Steroid pumpkin head Putin will soon be worm food.
So, the unconfirmed reports that Putin has cancer are true?
“But I don’t like to talk about “regime changes” in reference to nations which have elections.”
Russia does not have fair elections. You can’t have elections when you have nothing but state propaganda for media. You also have political opponents beat up and jailed.
Regime change? If he dies, he dies.
Putin himself has pocketed as much as 200 billion. That kinda cash gotta be awfully tempting to our own oligarchs.
Follow the money.
See, when someone threatens to “nuke the shit” out of my country, I don’t care what bullcrap excuse they use. I tell them they’ll be the first one in hell.
Might be good for some of you to remember that. This is America not Russia.
Morons here going on about how Russia warned us what they won’t stand for.
Un-bee-leave-able..
Ya. Let’s tell Putin and all his friends the goal here is to take him, and everybody that has supported him, out. Dead or alive..
And then see what he will do?
What next, an on line CNN poll to vote and determine if he, his family and associates go Mussolini or Saddam Hussein style?
Do they Want a Nuclear WWIII? ‘Cuz this is how you get a nuclear WWIII.
“...like full-blown nuclear war...”
If the democrat cities burn to ashes first, then I will be OK with it. At least I’ll have a few hours of gleeful schadenfreude knowing those rats will taste my whip and pitchfork in hell. /spit
We would win a nuclear exchange. A big price yes but it would definitely be a new world order.
Nah, this is all about Victoria Nuland’s career.
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