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Ukraine’s violent stalemate: how Russia’s offensive became a war of attrition
Financial Times ^ | 3/26/2022 | Tim Judah in Makariv, Henry Foy in Brussels, Ben Hall and John Paul Rathbone in London

Posted on 03/26/2022 6:02:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

Russian troops arrived in the town of Makariv just four days after Vladimir Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine. This week, Ukrainian authorities claimed to have retaken the town, 65km west of Kyiv, in a daring counter-attack that sent Russian forces into retreat.

Andriy Nebytov, the Kyiv chief of police, posted a video on Facebook showing him dressed in full combat gear, visiting the damaged and seemingly deserted town. In one scene he picks up what looks like a crumpled Ukrainian flag.

“As long as our flag lives,” he later said in a statement, “our army lives.”

The next day the Ukrainian defence ministry declared that “the state flag of Ukraine was raised over the city of Makariv, the enemy was driven back”. It seemed to imply that the town had been liberated from Russian control.

The “liberation” story went viral on social media. And news outlets around the world reported that the Russians had indeed been pushed back in Makariv. But it was untrue. Makariv has not been liberated. Putin’s troops had only controlled a sixth of the town its mayor, Vadim Tokar, tells the Financial Times. And they are still there.

In Ukraine, two wars are being waged in parallel: the real one and the virtual one. Sometimes they tally but increasingly they don’t.

Yet the story of Makariv also provides a snapshot of the conflict one month after Putin unleashed the biggest military offensive in Europe since the second world war: neither side has the upper hand in what is becoming a static war of attrition.

According to Tokar, there were 15,000 people in Makariv before the war and now there are fewer than 1,000.

Asked if it was safe for anyone to return home, his response was categorical: “One hundred per cent no.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: andriynebytov; biden; bidenfanclub; chechens; chechnyas; makariv; putin; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; warofattrition; zotbidenvoters; zotneocons; zotsorosbots; zottherussiantrolls
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War is a lot like Rashomon. How it's going depends on the interview subject. There are reasons to be cautious about the progress Ukraine says it's making against Russian troops, just as Russian claims of steady progress against Ukraine are equally suspect. Ultimately, who keeps or gains what at what cost depends on a test of wills between two national populations. The West can bolster Ukraine's will to fight on with supplies, but whether Ukraine is prepared to bleed Russia to the extent that the Russians suffer hundreds of thousands of men killed is a decision only Ukrainians can take, given the cost to themselves.

At the moment, only a trickle of Western supplies is being provided, notwithstanding the grand-sounding rhetoric being issued from Western capitals. Whether that trickle becomes a flood depends on whether Western governments really intend to supply Ukraine or are merely looking to mount a token effort while papering over their craven surrender to Russian territorial ambitions with soaring rhetoric about freedom and national self-determination.

1 posted on 03/26/2022 6:02:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei
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Both sides want WWIII



2 posted on 03/26/2022 6:07:49 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Cornpop was a bad dude)
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To: Zhang Fei

A war of attrition, likely followed by an insurgent war.


3 posted on 03/26/2022 6:10:22 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Zhang Fei

Wish the U.S would help drive the invaders out. Out of Ireland that is


4 posted on 03/26/2022 6:10:44 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: AnthonySoprano

Ukraine isn’t NATO territory

stop panicking, this is Ukraine’s fight

there won’t be WWIII


5 posted on 03/26/2022 6:10:45 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Zhang Fei

Russia is on the offense.

Ukraine is on the defense.

Normally, the offense will suffer more casualties than the defense.


6 posted on 03/26/2022 6:10:59 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Zhang Fei

According to Tokar, there were 15,000 people in Makariv before the war and now there are fewer than 1,000.
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By any standards of war, that is losing. Sorry to say, Vlad is winning. Vlad will bury his dead, move on. The Ukies will bury their dead, then go begging for money to rebuild, which will take a decade. The US taxpayers will end up paying, but 10 percent will go to the big guy, senile Joe and associates.


7 posted on 03/26/2022 6:12:51 PM PDT by delta7
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To: canuck_conservative

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The President of the United States says,

“We must steel ourselves for the king fight ahead “

What does that mean to you?

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8 posted on 03/26/2022 6:15:27 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Cornpop was a bad dude)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Time to invoke the 25th Amendment to the Constituion.


9 posted on 03/26/2022 6:22:36 PM PDT by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Doesn’t mean anything to me

BTW you do realize that The President has to get Congressional approval before he can put the US into a war, right? The same problem that George W. Bush had?

except now Congress has been burned by the “fake WMD’s” ruse used to go into Iraq, and so will be wary to act

the only one talking about WWIII is you


10 posted on 03/26/2022 6:23:01 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Presidents don’t talk cavalierly about coming Food Shortages

His handlers have to wanted to escalate from the very beginning, and now he says openly, Putin must be removed.

It’s clear they want the War.


11 posted on 03/26/2022 6:24:37 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Cornpop was a bad dude)
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To: ASOC

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YES!

But they won’t even speak anything along those lines, Trump was in office 15 days and they were spreading those rumors.

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12 posted on 03/26/2022 6:25:50 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Cornpop was a bad dude)
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To: AnthonySoprano
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13 posted on 03/26/2022 6:26:44 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Cornpop was a bad dude)
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To: canuck_conservative

You don’t have to twist a politician’s arm to vote for war and military spending.


14 posted on 03/26/2022 6:28:41 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: AnthonySoprano

ooooookaaaaayyyyyyy

stay paranoid


15 posted on 03/26/2022 6:30:48 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

That doesn’t sound like he’s (biden’s) pushing for war to you?


16 posted on 03/26/2022 6:32:47 PM PDT by stevio
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and what will be the justification given for asking Congress to approve war?


17 posted on 03/26/2022 6:34:57 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

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It’s clear that all the Media crazy emotional reporting was driven by DC Deep State sources.

So why did they whip people up into a frenzy?

Why did they need the American people outraged and invested?

If we’re just sending some defensive weapons, that doesn’t require Joe Six pack whipped into a frenzy.

And now, the POTUS says serious food shortages are coming.

The Admin had Vindman and Schwarzenegger making Videos, for God’s sake.

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18 posted on 03/26/2022 6:35:15 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Cornpop was a bad dude)
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To: canuck_conservative

Congress hopefully will not agree but, to me, the CIC is openly pushing for a war.


19 posted on 03/26/2022 6:37:04 PM PDT by stevio
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To: canuck_conservative

This admin has already ignored SCOTUS decisions. What makes you think they’ll go to congress?


20 posted on 03/26/2022 6:37:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I’m see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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