Posted on 05/08/2022 11:25:12 PM PDT by ganeemead
Gonzalo ain’t right. He’s basically lying.
The UK is barely affected. France is more affected and Germany the most.
However even in Germany’s case the biggest hit is energy, not food. It can gi back to coal and be self sufficient.
As to Russia going on its own, it doesn’t have the tools to continue drilling and extract and does not have the technical knowledge to continue
“fairly quickly”
Imagine the US trying to wean itself off natural gas.
I don’t think John Kerry would think it could be done by December 2022.
We can’t say 2030 is impractical and then say 2023 is practical.
A good, balanced answer.
Just one point, don’t club all of Europe in the same basket when criticising about using Russian energy
“does not have the technical knowledge to continue”
I’m sure some Russian students studied petroleum extraction in the USA and asked their professors (who consulted on the side) a lot of questions.
Russia copied British jet engines to make engines for MIG-15s.
The Russians can copy drill bits.
“go back to coal”
Europe does not lack enviro-whackos.
By this winter they will be partially weaned off natural gas. A little of this, a little of that, and conservation measures, and they will muddle through pretty well. These are rich and resourceful places. Russia however has permanently lost a huge market, that it cant easily substitute because of the geographical and infrastructure constraints of natural gas. This all is a permanent economic disaster for Russia.
Lyra is a buffoon.
Russia is a 3rd world economy that exports raw materials and imports manufactured goods and food.
The only meaningful difference between Russia and Kazakhstan is that Russia has a vast nuclear arsenal. Which may or may not work.
“Europe “ includes western Russia. Be specific.
The mig 15 dates to the 1950s.
the United Kingdom sold dozens of Nenes to Russia in 1946 and 1947
You are bring out the fact that 70 years ago they copied something as evidence of what they can do today? Well you are sadly wrong, as evidenced by the charred remains of Russian designed tanks, planes and helicopters in Ukraine
I’m well aware the Poles and several other Eastern European countries were inoculated against the global socialism and Gaia worship of the Western European elites.
When you’ve had socialism imposed on you for 40 years, you don’t romanticize it. When you’ve had to fight and scratch and claw to get your national sovereignty back, you don’t give it up lightly. When the socialism imposed on you for 40 years has left you behind economically, you don’t tend to indulge in wasteful Gaia worship. I told my Hungarian friends back in the mid 90s that in some ways, they were better off/further ahead than Western Europe. They didn’t know what I meant. I’m pretty sure they understand what I meant now.
Had President Trump remained in office and this conflict arisen (yes, it wouldn’t have happened at all but bear with me), the liberal media here and abroad would have been screaming that Trump was using it to destroy Western Europe instead of Putin.
*** The UK is barely affected.***
I am in a lot of groups with UK citizens. A few months ago, many were complaining they could not afford to heat their homes,or cook meals, except in their microwaves. That bundling up in their “woolies” was not sufficient.
Shortages in their stores- Most of the people in those groups are not pensioners or working class. They are educators, and academics, authors, artists in paint, sculpture, fabric, etc.
It’s odd as I always viewed many as somewhat of a privileged class immune from these types of woes.
So it is a "deep-state line" to help a sovereign country to defend itself from a foreign invasion?
Putin puts West on notice: Moscow can terminate exports and deals
Putin begins Russia’s bite-back over Ukraine sanctions
Gives wide powers to cut raw material, produce exports
Forbids transactions with sanctioned entities
Retaliatory moves could wreak chaos across markets
Who will be on sanctions lists will now be key
Putin, Russia’s paramount leader since 1999, signed a broad decree on Tuesday which forbade the export of products and raw materials to people and entities on a sanctions list that he instructed the government to draw up within 10 days.
The decree, which came into force with its publication, gives Moscow the power to sow chaos across markets as it could at any moment halt exports or tear up contracts with an entity or individual it has sanctioned.
And the Putin puffers here would support Ukraine.
But I would be consistent...
Golly. If only there was a massive country in the western hemisphere that had the ability and political will to harvest its natural resources it could become rich. Oh well.
Having been there. The Russians I met don’t get up before noon with a massive vodka hangover. Russia is drinking itself to death. It is a miserable and depressed population enamored with the strongman as their only source of pride. I am surprised that any soldiers bothered showing up to muster.
The eurofools chose this path. Europe has massive coal reserves. Germany build the largest machines on earth to mine it. BUT, they chose their obedience to the green gods, Vestas, GE, and Siemens, Bosch and all the other green scoundrels. Germany is the stupidest of the bunch. They voted for that stasi c)(t Merkel who destroyed Germany’s future, and will drag the rest of Europe down with it. The former Soviet pac nations are the future of Europe.
Reagan warned them in the ‘80s about this very occurrence. As usual, the Euros didn’t listen.
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