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Gunman’s final 90 minutes fuel questions about police delays
inquirer.com ^ | 5/26/2022 | by Jake Bleiberg, Jim Vertuno, and Elliot Spagat, Associated Press

Posted on 05/28/2022 10:59:09 AM PDT by Kartographer

It was 11:28 a.m. when the Ford pickup slammed into a ditch behind the low-slung Texas school and the driver jumped out carrying an AR-15-style rifle.

Twelve minutes after that, authorities say, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos was in the hallways of Robb Elementary School. Soon he entered a fourth-grade classroom. And there, he killed 19 schoolchildren and two teachers in a still-unexplained spasm of violence.

At 12:58 p.m., law enforcement radio chatter said Ramos had been killed and the siege was over.

What happened in those 90 minutes, in a working-class neighborhood near the edge of the little town of Uvalde, has fueled mounting public anger and scrutiny over law enforcement’s response to Tuesday’s rampage.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; schoolshooter; schoolshooting; texas; uvalde
My question is where was Uvalde County Sheriff Ruben Nolasco during all of this?
1 posted on 05/28/2022 10:59:09 AM PDT by Kartographer
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URGENT and QUICK Emergencies, none of us use large dosis of LOGIC, it is usually a quick response. Seeing all the cops go to prison, for applying the law, in a split second they reach for a gun, thinking it was a taser. I would not want to be at all a police officer with the COURTS ruling in favor of criminals. I’d be thinking it over twice. This won’t turn out well. We have George Floyd to thank for this as well.


2 posted on 05/28/2022 11:03:06 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Kartographer

Did the teacher that left the door propped open get killed?


3 posted on 05/28/2022 11:03:57 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: Kartographer

Pete Arredondo was the Commander who made decision not to send 19 other
officers to kill the Teen Tranny. He should be held accountable for his actions.
Parents were begging police to go in. They had the right instincts but not the
skill sets. Police had right skill sets but wrong instincts.


4 posted on 05/28/2022 11:04:12 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: Kartographer

Shots being fired by Ramos for an hour.

5 posted on 05/28/2022 11:04:47 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Kartographer

I don’t think he’s been heard from. You would think in Texas that the county sheriff would have taken charge of the scene, not some school night watchman.


6 posted on 05/28/2022 11:08:01 AM PDT by abb
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Related...

What in the absolute **** happened,

Asterisks mine.

7 posted on 05/28/2022 11:08:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: tennmountainman

I have no law enforcement training or knowledge, but from my armchair, wouldn’t one of the first moves be to put a fiber optic camera up to the window from the exterior of that room to see how things were configured? If they saw the carnage inside, I suspect they would have gone instantly. But perhaps their protocols assume it’s time for hostage negotiations, etc. If that is true, it’s time to change protocols.

This incident should take the wind out of the sails of gun control legislation as a solution. “When seconds count the police are just minutes away” has been validated by this horrible event. And the implication of that is the polar opposite of gun-free school zones.


8 posted on 05/28/2022 11:12:01 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Kartographer
https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1530357972034936834

https://www.dailywire.com/news/uvalde-cops-had-active-shooter-training-just-weeks-before-elementary-school-massacre

9 posted on 05/28/2022 11:14:51 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
But perhaps their protocols assume it’s time for hostage negotiations, etc.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4066931/posts?page=9#9

10 posted on 05/28/2022 11:16:26 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: bankwalker

I thought it was a different teacher. But that’s a good question. No one has mentioned her name.
Seems like I read she ran back to room #132. That’s not one of the rooms where the guy killed the kids/teachers.


11 posted on 05/28/2022 12:04:46 PM PDT by Riley85
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To: Pollard

According to what I have read the school was on lock down before the door was propped open because of gun shots being heard nearby. That needs to be added to any timeline of the events.


12 posted on 05/28/2022 12:46:49 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Pollard

Like the old saying goes, when you need police now, they’re only a half hour away.

Defend yourself and take care of your own family and friends. depend on no one!


13 posted on 05/28/2022 5:44:00 PM PDT by allwrong57
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

“...fiber optic camera...”

Might be a bit fancy for small-town Texas.


14 posted on 05/28/2022 5:53:02 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Pollard

15 posted on 05/28/2022 5:56:10 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: lastchance

I think officers were getting kids ‘out of the classrooms thru windows’ because the last shooter went from room to room shooting kids and teachers.


16 posted on 05/28/2022 5:58:16 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Kartographer

How did this kid get $5,000 plus to buy the weapons, sights and ammo? Anyhow know?


17 posted on 05/29/2022 7:53:13 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
How did this kid get $5,000 plus to buy the weapons, sights and ammo? Anyhow know?

GOOD question!
18 posted on 05/29/2022 9:56:16 PM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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I hoping you had an answer but glad to have you with me on it being a good question. :)


19 posted on 05/30/2022 1:23:59 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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To: Pollard

Sad.


20 posted on 05/30/2022 1:29:48 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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