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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“We will all live in a food desert soon.”

It’s kind of inevitable. The industrialized world can simply not sustain 9+ billion people on “alternative energy” It simply isn’t possible. And that will mean hundreds of millions, if not billions dead. Yes, solar and wind energy sources are nice supplements to the energy grid and may work better in some areas then others—but at the end of the day, with the current knowledge known to man—we can only sustain the world we have with fossil fuels.

and folks, when there’s no food to be found whatsoever—then ALL BETS ARE OFF. It’s then everyone for themselves.


6 posted on 06/15/2022 2:46:23 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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To: Jaysin

You do realize it is all by design?


7 posted on 06/15/2022 2:51:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: Jaysin

Plenty of hikers available in Appalachia right now if deer run low this fall...no one will miss them. (’Bear must have got them’...)


11 posted on 06/15/2022 3:09:55 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: Jaysin

People persist in calling the primary energy sources of the world, petroleum and natural gas, “fossil fuels”. Most of the hydrocarbon fuels existing today were formed by abiotic means, and they are not “dinosaur soup”. No matter what your third grade teacher taught you.

Methane, natural gas, was present in very large quantity as part of the composition of the earth’s atmosphere when the molten mass that w to become our planet was first formed. The other constituents of the atmosphere were carbon dioxide, ammonia and water vapor. There was no free oxygen, which was all bound up in the carbon dioxide and the water vapor. It was only when the earth cooled enough, and the microbiota evolved to the point where they could convert the carbon dioxide and now condensed water into carbohydrates and free oxygen, that the atmosphere we know and breathe today could begin to form. When ammonia oxidizes (and it is a very combustible fuel), the reaction forms free nitrogen and more water. Today our atmosphere is some 78% nitrogen, a relatively unreactive element, 21% oxygen, a highly reactive element, and about 1% of other gases, of which carbon dioxide is only a small fraction of a percentage. The remainder of those gases is like small quantities of methane, argon, and other complex molecules, like water vapor and ammonia. Water vapor is actually a highly variable component in terms of percent of the atmosphere, increasing with warmth and decreasing with falling temperatures, and is the driver that controls much of the weather and overall climate on this planet.

The more complex hydrocarbons were formed under heat, pressure and a hellish combination of carbon dioxide, water molecules and methane, under superheated conditions and in the presence of a number of different catalysts at the layer of the earth between the rocky crust and the molten mater beneath called the Mohorovičić discontinuity. There, complex hydrocarbons are formed and rise into pockets within the rocky crust, becoming reservoirs of petroleum and natural gas, which we tap into today by drilling down and fracking of the rocky layers.

This continuous reaction is going on all the time, and is entirely independent of whatever amount of any organic matter gets trapped beneath the earth’s crust, and subject to a lesser amount of heat and pressure, forming hydrocarbons through thermal depolymerization, a process that can be done on an industrial scale right here on the surface of the earth, converting organic waste into kerogen, the technical name for crude oil.

If the current Powers That Be were TRULY concerned about making everything “green” in terms of converting everything to electric power, first make sure the capacity to generate the electric power is there in both quantity and reliability. Nobody EVER had to question the reliability of power generation by hydroelectric means, whether at Niagara Falls, or the many hydroelectric installations that even today dot the landscape. The largest problem with the hydroelectric generation is that they are limited in their placement, sometimes far from population centers, requiring long-distance transmission lines, with their cost and inevitable loss of power while passing through the wiring, radiated away as heat. Only a little bit for each mile, but it adds up over distance.

That is why coal plants and Diesel generation stations came into operation in the nearer locations to the population and industrial centers, to reduce this loss of power over long transmission lines. And eventually why uranium-fueled light water reactor power generation plants were funded and built relatively close to industry and residential user locations. These nuclear power plants could run 24/7/365 at flat-out maximum output for YEARS before needing refueling, but this meant that “spent” uranium fuel rods, which still retained about 97% of residual power, had to be removed and either reprocessed, or kept in storage for periods ranging up to something like 10,000 years before the residual radioactivity died down.

Enter several technical and engineering advances, making it possible to use thorium, a much more available and stable nuclear fuel, to build thorium-fueled molten salt nuclear reactors, which can also run 24/7/365 flat-out full maximum for years, but are inherently much safer, and also as important, can be scaled up or down in size to fit the locality. Because of the design, there is no possibility of having a meltdown that releases a large radioactive cloud, like the Chernobyl or Fukushima nuclear disasters. And perhaps even more important than any other reason for adoption, the “spent” uranium fuel rods must be used to initiate the thorium-fueled reaction which does not start spontaneously, eventually consuming most or all of the fuel rods now in storage, so the world does not have to wait 10,000 years for them to become relatively harmless.

So get the hell busy building all this electrical generation infrastructure, so the grand schemes of making the whole world powered by electricity other than by burning hydrocarbon fuels can be realized. Wind and solar power are just too unreliable and wasteful of resources for use in other than niche applications, they cannot possible supply the power demands for any advanced civilization by themselves.


26 posted on 06/15/2022 3:51:40 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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To: Jaysin
"...we can only sustain the world we have with fossil fuels."

Uh, nuclear fission would work quite nicely. The anti-nuke memes were started and initially funded by the KGB during the cold war...

37 posted on 06/15/2022 5:34:08 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Jaysin

Which is EXACTLY what Gates & Fauci want to happen


44 posted on 06/15/2022 6:41:27 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Jaysin

When the trucks stop nobody eats!


45 posted on 06/15/2022 7:49:51 AM PDT by caww ( )
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