Posted on 06/15/2022 3:51:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Day 110. Today, we discuss the latest updates from across Ukraine and Europe, look at how much money Russia has made from selling fossil fuels this year and discuss the history behind the policy of Russification in the occupied regions of southern Ukraine.
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I’d love to see a combined NATO amphibious landing and assault on Crimea.
Believing your own propaganda got you in this position in the first place ....
“ I’d love to see a combined NATO amphibious landing and assault on Crimea.”
How many American dead would you like to see?
lol.
So the WEF and their proxies in western governments miscalculated.
More sanctions will fix this.
Yeah, the Donbas People's Militia is driving the Ukrainian military out of the Donetsk People's Republic.
“I’d love to see a combined NATO amphibious landing and assault on Crimea.”
It’s not going to happen because Turkey invoked the Montreaux Convention and has closed the Bosporus to all warships.
It’s also the Black Sea and as the Russians can testify running naval operations in that pond is risky even when things are normal.
Sadly, this will be a war of nerves, economics, and attrition. Whoever can hold out the longest will win.
Ukraine has supplies coming in, Russia does not. Russia is expending their military at a prodigious rate and they lack the industrial base to rebuild it. In one of the great twists of irony much of the Russian military equipment and vehicles were built in Ukrainian factories that have now been destroyed.
Rossiya does not need an army after this little “special training free seminar action”.
Vlad plans on destroying the world with his last Khan like breath... To deny Ukrainians sovereignty and also to just tick off all the petty tinpot nuclear power dictators who wanted that glory someday.
Real joke is Ukes would not get Sovereignty in the EU (see Poland, Hungary) and the U.S. is scrubbing it off furiously whenever they recognize vestiges of it.
1.) The Jimmy Dore Show, 6/11/22
Ukraine Should Admit Defeat NOW! Says Top U.S Military Leader
2.) Ukraine forces outgunned up to 40 to one by Russian forces, intelligence report reveals (6/9/22)
https://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-report-reveals-ukraine-forces-174236886.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
3.) Ukraine is running out of ammunition as prospects dim on the battlefield (6/12/22)
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4070605/posts
4.) Cases of desertion are growing among Ukrainian forces suffering significant losses in Russia’s artillery onslaught, report says (6/11/22)
5.) ‘They’re Wiping Us From Earth’: Evading Russian Artillery With a Ukrainian Military Unit (6/12/22)
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/ukrainian-military-unit-russia-artillery-1365021/
Leo sounds like an Obamabot. NATO bombed Libya on Odumba’s behalf on unproven allegations Gaddafi would attack 10k of his own people, did so offensively when they legally can’t do that as that was offense and NATO is a defensive chatter, and no NATO member either was being attacked by Libya.
Crimean War II?
Bet you would love to see a nuclear war or even Humankind going back to the Stone Age in the blink of an eye too, eh Neocon?
piss off
You and your comment would rank right up there with Baskin-Robbins 31-flavors of idiocy, yeah?
Now I have my own “propaganda,” and I’m in some position in Ukraine? Or am I confusing this with an address meant for Putin, Zelensky or the Telegraph? If I don’t know to whom you are talking, I don’t know what you are saying.
Here’s what I’m trying to do, figure out a bizarre situation in a complicated region, involving the clash of two nations whose cultures I don’t fully understand. I might get things wrong. So might you, unless you’re native to the region. But here’s what I get so far.
Putin is doing what he should have done in the first place, which is concentrate his forces on an attainable goal, as he did in Crimea, which he’s been occupying and Russ-ifying for eight years. But what do I know of military matters? He riled up the populace enough that he’s got partisan fighters even in the areas that he has managed to occupy.
I’m glad he made these blunders, because he’s made it clear he’s not stopping at Ukraine. He’s after the “restoration” of the Russian Empire, and not of Stalin or Kruschev, but of Peter and Catherine the Grate, respectively. He also wants to “de-Nazify” Poland and has said so. So it’s my fervent hope that he gets bogged down in Ukraine, which probably can’t drive him out, but all they have to do is fail to be conquered, and if “conquered,” fail to surrender and stop resisting by any means necessary.
I do not delude myself that the West is defending “democracy” or “decency” or whatever. Zelenskyy is not Satan incarnate. He’s alright for Eastern Europe on that score, but he’s also not a paragon of democratic values or good government, both of which go against the grain of Eastern Europe, and which a neophyte like him had no chance of accomplishing.
The closest Russia ever came to that was Boris Yeltsin, who had his opposition in the Russian legislature taken out and shot, then failed at everything and became an incompetent drunk, resigning in favor of CathPeterPutin the Grate, who rejects democracy, embraces corruption wholeheartedly, and rules with an iron hand as he grabs chunks of former Soviet Republics, such as Georgia and Ukraine.
Zelenskyy ran on ending corruption and ending the conflict in the East, and failed to achieve either or even stick to democratic strictures such as free speech and not arresting opposition leaders. But on the plus side, he’s a courageous war-time leader who’s also photogenic, which is awesome for bogging down Putin. But as for peace, good government and the rest? Забудь це.
Piss off.
Freedom of speech , ever heard of that? Mr.Pissy
Neocons love you.
If I remember the history of that period, the problem started when gaddafi was going to crack down on far eastern city Benghazi because they had been protesting his tyranny. Rebels moved along the coast toward Sirte, Gadaffi’s tribal based capital. Then movement started toward western capital Tripoli. Meanwhile, Berbers in the Atlas Mountains south of Tripoli started rebelling. The Arab Spring had recently begun in Tunisia west of Libya and help for the Berbers came in from Tunisia. The Mediterranian port city of Misrata was being shelled from the direction of Tripoli south of Misrata to prevent supplies from reaching the rebels. Supporters starting in Tunisia were also fighting toward Misrata.
I was watching all this in articles and comments here in FR, and rooting for the Berber fighters from the Mountains and the besieged defenders of Misrata. I was thinking why doesn’t the West do something to help these people. I believe it was around that time NATO or someone’s airplanes did some helpful action for the rebels and I was very happy. At any rate my recollection is that the bombing against Gaddafi was some time after his initial threats against the people in Benghazi and the killing of our Ambassador. It was more specifically because of the bombing of Misrata, and I presume the international shipping bringing support for the rebels, and a reaction to the heroic struggle of the Berber villagers in the Mountians. They were a people with a different language and culture who had not been treated well historically by Gaddafi.
Humanitarian bombings by NATO occurred against Libya and Serbia both and it came out later that the accusations against Serbia were hyped to a large degree. Both bombings occurred under Democrat presidents, and both used libtard, emotional appeals to get around NATO having a defensive charter and to get around the fact that no NATO member was beimg attacked by either.
In the end, there was no evidence presented for a soon to be 10k massacre, the arguments used to get NATO involved were military interventionism in nature, and these, plus the war in Iraq before and Obama’s other involvement in Syria, Yemen, etc, has led to Americans saying enough of this.
"Here’s what I’m trying to do, figure out a bizarre situation in a complicated region, involving the clash of two nations whose cultures I don’t fully understand. I might get things wrong. So might you, unless you’re native to the region. But here’s what I get so far."
We have more information on this conflict than any other in the last 50 years. This is the most confusing war from the front line to the international politics the world has seen in 50 years. Those on both sides shouting everyone else down are not helping.
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