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1 posted on 06/23/2022 7:17:39 AM PDT by conservative98
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This useless donut muncher did not fail to stop the shooting.. He refused to stop the shooting and actively prevented other people from stopping the shooting. So far as I’m concerned this prick is an accomplice to the shooting.


2 posted on 06/23/2022 7:24:50 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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Ed-Ray Ag-Flay.


3 posted on 06/23/2022 7:26:35 AM PDT by OKSooner ("That was then, this is now." - S.E. Hinton, Tulsa, OK)
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bass turd chicken


5 posted on 06/23/2022 7:30:54 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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Does the word psyop and the phrase false flag apply here? 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️
6 posted on 06/23/2022 7:31:09 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Pete Arredondo is in SO much trouble for his hesitancy and lack of judgment. Cops were in the building four minutes after the shooting, and the door to the room where the killer was holed up WAS NOT LOCKED. A rush was possible at that point, and the call never came.

Closing the barn door after the horse escapes is sort of futile.

If ever anyone were a pariah, Pete Arredondo fits the profile.


7 posted on 06/23/2022 7:32:45 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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“this set our profession back a decade”

I have to disagree, at least with the implicit idea that this is something very out of line with the way police have been normally operating lately. This seems like a perfectly natural result of the “first make sure the officer gets home safely” mindset that has infected police departments all over the country over the last couple of decades.


8 posted on 06/23/2022 7:32:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Paid or unpaid leave?

He’s halfway home.

Now, if he could just get the city council to put him on paid admin leave...he’s in high cotton. I know they’ve denied his request for leave, but if he can irritate them enough, they may just say “Get the heck outta here until this is resolved.”


9 posted on 06/23/2022 7:34:43 AM PDT by moovova
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Uvalde school district police Chief Pete Arredondo ... botched the response to the Robb Elementary School shooting that left 19 students and two teachers dead.... cops under his command waited 77 minutes to confront gunman

When seconds count, cops are only 77 minutes away!

Would all the liberal anti-gun geniuses out there tell me again why armed teachers is a bad idea?!

10 posted on 06/23/2022 7:35:42 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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Arredondo supposedly was the on-scene commander. Yet he didn’t even have a police radio with him. His first excuse was that he left it behind because it might get in the way if he had to use his pistol. Then he said he left it behind because carrying a radio would have slowed him down.

I don’t care if the investigation is complete or not. Those two statements alone give plenty of reason for Arredondo to be fired immediately. No leave of absence crap.


11 posted on 06/23/2022 7:36:57 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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I sympathize with the police because this is a no-win situation for them in reality.

The job they are tasked with, is impossible, and if it were possible, no one would want that sort of police presence and intrusion in their lives.

(The real fix):

The only real fix is to have multiple concealed and armed teachers/staff (volunteers: vetted/selected and trained).

That way you have someone in proximity of where anything could happen. A single cop cannot be in 5 or 6 places at the same time and many of these schools are large, with multiple floors and many rooms...

Likewise, the police cannot really react to the situation fast enough (time to get there - the shooting is often over within a few minutes) and if they do try to rush things when they get there the chances of something going wrong are very high.

The single school resource officer as today is the norm, is an illusion, just like the TSA. It's eyewash for the masses and the sort of junk you expect from the bureaucrats and politicians today that always want to show “action” after a crisis.

If you have a real shooter intent on doing harm, this resource officer will be the first target, and he'll be an easy target (you know who he is - and it's easy to get close to him or behind him...). He would be the first to get shot and maybe even provide a thinking shooter another weapon, more ammo, body armor, a radio to listen to...

My arming school staff (select volunteers) you have enough people spread out over the area to guarantee a rapid response, they know the facility, the shooter does not know who they are (can't take them out in a first strike - shooter has threat from all directions at all times). The resource officer is now part of the selection, training and planning process for the school first responders. He might even be more effective in such a scenario.

The solution is obvious from a tactical viewpoint.

But this is an emotional issue and the solutions need to be in line with what emotional people want/expect. Do not expect this issue to get fixed. But we'll blame lots of people: police, guns, the NRA, violent video games, loss of God, broken homes, psychological drugs, even toxic masculinity... Blame blame blame... Do nothing practical, we haven't yet, and it's been ~22 years since this issue has been highlighted.

13 posted on 06/23/2022 7:52:58 AM PDT by Red6
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What we saw was a live action example of a government bureaucratic decision making where following the process\procedures as defined by the legal department rules all! Unfortunately, it cost lives!

It’s not just government that functions this way all large organizations do! The goal is spread the decision making around as widely as possible so not one individual is readily identifiable as making the decision. This is done so as much as possible protect the individuals from possible legal action as well as blame. If all goes well, there will plenty of public group hugs and maybe one of the more ambitious will publicly take credit. If things go badly something peripheral will be blamed, like an inanimate hunk of steel - a gun. It won’t be any one individual’s fault. How can it be they followed the policies\procedures? The organization with its legal department will later promise to examine their internal processes\procedures. Later they will loudly announce a solution involving the application of more processes and procedures.

I’ve seen this time & time again! For all “oopsies” in all organizations - government or commercial, large or small!


16 posted on 06/23/2022 7:54:36 AM PDT by Reily
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This clown is complicit in all the murders at the school and should be prosecuted accordingly.


22 posted on 06/23/2022 8:11:31 AM PDT by chopperk
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In a just world, we would arrest him and press charges.


25 posted on 06/23/2022 8:30:30 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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An honorable man would have already gone into a closet with his pistol and ended his own miserable life.

L


28 posted on 06/23/2022 8:54:08 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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PAID LEAVE........VACATION!!! He should be FIRED and SUED!


29 posted on 06/23/2022 9:13:14 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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