Posted on 06/28/2022 4:54:59 AM PDT by FarCenter
After VE Day the US was totally engaged in demobilization in Europe and sending troops either home or to the Pacific, depending on how many “points” they had accumulated. NATO was created at the urgent behest of western Europe, prostrate and facing a hundred divisions of the Red Amy at their Eastern doorstep. I doubt they wanted to pacify themselves.
Bingo.
The only time we have had any semblance of peace since WWII has been under Republican presidents. The Democrats get us into wars, and the good Republicans try to extricate us from them.
Everyone is familiar with President Eisenhower's warning. The term hadn't been invented yet, but in different words, President Eisenhower warned us of the Deep State.
America has no business getting involved with this Slavic slugfest. Not our circus, not our monkeys. We have too many problems at home which require our full attention. In my lifetime, clearly the Democrats have been the War Party.
Isn't it laughable that all the peaceniks have disappeared? Where are the once ubiquitous shaggy protesters demanding peace? Where have they all gone?
I believe it was Huey Long who said of Fascism coming to the United States of America: “Of course we’ll have it. We’ll have it under the guise of anti-fascism.”
The Kingfish got that one right.
Money. There's money to be made in war. Plus de-population of peoples and resources. The globalists elite think they are immune.
If Russia loses, the WEF, DC, London, NATO, the EU, Uke fascism, globohomo, in other words, the most dangerous enemies of the average American are strengthened.
Define losing.
Conclusion:
US Deep State & Globalists have created an untenable position.
Gee: Go figure.
Hey CINOs: Nice going. /s
I think this article is completely bunk. NATO collapses if Ukraine is defeated and/or comes to a peace agreement that leaves the Donbas in Russian hands? I don’t buy that. At all.
If anything, the alliance is stronger. The Western Europeans have finally woken up and realized they need to provide for their own defense and need to diversify their energy supplies. The US had been screaming at them to do this for 30-40 years to no avail. Now there’s no political resistance to it any more.
Another point I disagree with are his claims about Putin having grandiose ambitions everywhere else. Russia will win this conflict but it has been costly economically and militarily. If anything, I think this will make Putin or any other future Russian leader cautious about taking the military option.
Pouring yet more money and yet more weapons down the Ukraine rat hole is not in American interests. Ukraine should be pressured to make a deal ceding those areas Russia occupies which just so happen to correspond to historical Russian territory and which are filled mostly with ethnic Russians who are Russian speakers.
Yes we do need to focus much more on the Asia Pacific Region. The Europeans should be able to defend themselves with America in reserve - not at the forefront.
Funny that the left wing used to say this sort of stuff. Now they’re all silent as the grave that a Marxist election thief is running things.
So many institutes and institutional men out there, This one, Seth Cropsey, born in 1948, is a open neocon, and founder and president of Yorktown Institute. He served as a US naval officer and as deputy undersecretary of the navy, and is the author of the books Mayday and Seablindness.
https://yorktowninstitute.org/
If one looks at the Yorktown Institute splash page today, the first article by Stephen Bryen (highlighted) is titled "US and NATO Lack Capability to Supply a Long War."
Seems that the Ukraine/Russia conflict is already catastrophic, so his Asia Times article is more blah-blah heaped onto the morass of commentary about that which cannot be known.
What may be known is that, according to Yorktown, "US and NATO Lack Capability to Supply a Long War." What may also been known is that the current Western sanctions are harming the West far more effectively that an actual but non-nuclear war with Russia. The current crop of neocons -- Kagans, Nuland and this guy in the headlines -- want US hegemony over the world, while the West "lacks capability." Fighting to the death for all those young Ukrainian men who will never be fathers is not a future for Ukraine, while the neocons and Leftists like Biden and the Democrat princelings who were making millions in the Ukraine (Biden, Pelosi, Kerry and Romney) cheer on the carnage. From afar.
Yeah. Either way, this thing -- like the recent Covid "event" and economically destructive lockdowns -- is catastrophic. Another analysis should turn the tide.
By the way, among Cropsey's Yorktown advisors is ex-Senator and Gore running mate, Lieberman, so "neocon." huh?
What would REALLY be catastrophic for the current game is if SWIFT, being used to sanction Russia, was now bypassed as a competitive currency transfer exchange among the BRICS were to be one result of the proxy war between Russia and neocon grift and corruption. No good players in this game, I'd say.
“Not enough reason to explain why we’re in this war.”
Because America’s enemies wanted us to do a proxy war with Russia. And neocons, dems, etc. took the bait.
How does it hurt us? Let me count the ways... inflation, food shortages (worldwide!), blown military budget, even more animosity generated towards us, removal of the dollar as primary world currency, digital currency forced down our throats...etc.
Dumbest move the US has made in 20 years. We’ll be paying the price for generations.
NATO is the free, anti-communist NATO of the cold war era; Putin isn’t another Stalin or Khrushchev; and we can better use Zelensky’s $100 billion here at home.
You posting your Asia Times commie propaganda again, newbie??
** IGNORE **
These warmongers missed the bus. Last Wednesday the 22nd would have the auspicious date to launch war with Russia. After all, third times a charm.
Biden or Trudeau propaganda isn’t commie?
Americas enemies are running...er running down America already. This proxy war was their idea and they purposefully, over and over again, incited the war until Russia took them up on it because a red line was crossed. They have been inciting this war since the USSR fell. America’s enemies aren’t giving you any info on how they incited it and most do not even know how they did it. They just buy MSM bullsheet.
Globalism, the new world order and neoconism absolutely must die if American First, MAGA nationalism is to replace it.
Any Republican that supports any of that needs to cleansed from the party by the base.
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Well said!
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