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Russia Is Readying the Zinc Coffins Again: U.S. officials believe Russia is facing its toughest fight since World War II.
Foreign Policy ^ | 8 August 2022 | Jack Detsch

Posted on 08/08/2022 7:26:35 PM PDT by BeauBo

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Our source in the OP said that the United States was forced to transfer new MLRS installations to us, due to the loss of 3 Himars installations by the Armed Forces in July and two in August. Russia uses satellites to track the Himars and strikes with missiles when they are hidden in warehouses.


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The United States blocked the supply of Himars MLRS to Ukraine, according to the Avia portal.

Until the end of this month, the United States will not supply new multiple launch rocket systems to Ukraine. According to sources, the reason for this was certain circumstances identified by the American side, in particular, we can talk about the losses of six Himars MLRS, which the Russian side had previously announced.
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Russia MOD:

In addition, 19 rockets from the American Haimars multiple launch rocket system were shot down in the air in the areas of Sukhaya Kamenka, Kharkiv region, Melitopol, Zaporozhye region, and Antonovka, Kherson region.


41 posted on 08/08/2022 11:35:20 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: All; montag813

“Slava Ukraini! Glory to Ukraine!”

1- Ukrainian ‘Drone Swarm’ launches to HEAVY AIRSTRIKE against Russians!
Aug 8, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msRVD8x2n5c

2- Update from Ukraine | Ruzzians were cut from Kherson thanks to Himars
Aug 8, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3W9-65MYlE

3- This is a fantastic operation: Ukrainian ‘OMEGA’ battalion captured Russian troops in eastern region
Aug 8, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl00B5RtUds

4-BRUTAL ATTACK (Aug 09) Ukraine 71st Brigade Destroyed Russian Army BMP 3 With Artillery Near Donbas
Aug 8, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E2w-cAfNhI


42 posted on 08/09/2022 12:08:46 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: BeauBo

Don’t Worry—Russia will pay North Korea in Rockets, grain, and let the North Koreans pillage and take food from Ukraine. They can be shipped in via the Trans Siberian Rail Road. In the end, if Russia Wins, North Korea stands to gain a great deal, and so does China. Who will rebuild the New Russian territories? North Koreans! When its all done, maybe Trump will build a Hotel Resort on the Black Sea?


43 posted on 08/09/2022 12:11:06 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: BeauBo

The Russians often leave their dead on the battle field. Videos of Ukrainians loading abandoned Russian dead into boxcars.


44 posted on 08/09/2022 12:16:58 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: montag813

The guy who CBS showed in their deceptively cut video complained.

His name is Jonas Ohman and he runs a small civilian volunteer humanitarian aid operation. He said that his organization can deliver only 30% of the aid to the very front lines because it is war and they can’t get through some areas.

Someone at CBS cut this into him supposedly saying that only 30% of the military aid gets to the front, which is absolutely false.


45 posted on 08/09/2022 3:10:53 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: fso301

4,000 dead in the first hour of D-Day.


46 posted on 08/09/2022 5:07:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BeauBo

Syrians, Chechens, LNR/DNR forced conscripts fighting and dying for Russia are not counted by anyone.


47 posted on 08/09/2022 5:10:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

I think Syrians never arrived and at least according to Kamil Galeev the Chechens don’t do much fighting themselves. They’re the thugs who threaten others.


48 posted on 08/09/2022 5:22:48 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: BeauBo

“Boys in Zinc, by Svetlana Alexievich.”

Learn something new every day.


49 posted on 08/09/2022 7:50:18 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: Cathi

“The United States believes that Ukraine already has enough Western multiple launch rocket systems of the HIMARS type
Therefore, they will only supply ammunition to the remaining systems, the White House said.”

I believe they got 16 of the truck mounted HIMARS, and just a few of the tracked M-270 MLRS, or its MARS 2 variant - all of which fire the same rocket pods, interchangeably. About 20 launchers.

If they fire four loads per night (48 rockets), that would be about 1,500 rockets per month - a high rate. 20 launchers are probably enough to deliver that amount of ordnance, and still be able to play hide and seek with Russian counter-battery efforts.

I view it as an indication that there now enough operating to execute the counter-offensive Operational Plan that has been developed and agreed to. That deep strike capability is demonstrated to be working well.

The Ukrainians will likely be stressed/challenged more by other aspects of mounting a big counter-offensive over a lot of territory. So far, where Ukraine has gained significant territory, it has been where Russian forces chose to withdraw (Kiev, Chernihiv, Sumy). Conducting a big offensive against determined Russian resistance is not yet something that the Ukrainians have proven they can pull off. Driving Russian forces back out of Artillery range from Kharkiv City is probably their best such showing so far, on a small scale, in different terrain, and with almost no logistic lines of communication to maintain - operating right out of the second largest city, with rail and highway connections open.

It is going to be a new war in the South. Shaping operations (like those bridges) and suppression of air defense is already underway. Russia has redeployed most of its regular forces from the Donbas to the South. We will have to see how the new dynamic plays out in the South. The next major phase of the war.


50 posted on 08/09/2022 9:25:01 AM PDT by BeauBo ( )
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To: PIF

“4,000 dead in the first hour of D-Day.”

I thank God that we have been spared that kind of thing so far. I hope we never see them again.


51 posted on 08/09/2022 9:27:37 AM PDT by BeauBo ( )
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To: Zhang Fei; UMCRevMom@aol.com; PIF; familyop; dennisw; ought-six; marcusmaximus; MercyFlush; ...

Kim would not be sending his elite to Ukraine. He would be sending “malcotents”. This includes professors, artists, writers, protestors, etc. In other words people who think and don’t like what they see or might talk about in North Korea. Wonder how many would defect if approached by Korean speakers or given Korean language invitations to defect and be repatriated to South Korea? Large numbers of aerial leaflets could be used. South Korea should definitely work with Ukraine if Kim actually does this. What a moral and propaganda victory if large numbers of his “soldiers” defected to South Korea.


52 posted on 08/09/2022 10:29:29 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority)
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Not to mention Lend Lease, which, by the way, was that ever repaid to us by Russia?

Here is a paragraph from the posted article: “The U.S. Defense Department believes that as many as 80,000 Russian troops have been killed or wounded since the Kremlin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine less than six months ago, a top Pentagon official told reporters today.” This is considerably more in six months than Vietnam cost the US in almost 20 years of conflict.

86,000 Vietnam casualties does not mean KILLED. It includes wounded and sick. Vietnam killed was in the 50,000s. I am sure at this point Russia probably has at least 150,000 casualties, if not more. A lot of Russias troops are recruited among non Slavic minorities, such as Asian Buryats. Wouldn’t want to pi$$ off the Slavic Russian body politic. If the number of dead grow too much they might question their Putin loyalty or ignorance.


53 posted on 08/09/2022 10:51:58 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority)
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American MLRS HIMARS cost Ukraine one million dollars per minute 10.07.2022 06:53

The propagandists of the Kyiv regime, who demand more HIMARS systems from the United States, are not aware that firing only one MLRS rocket costs Ukraine $150,000.

The captain of the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Oleksandr Gamuschin , in an interview with a Ukrainian TV channel, told how much military aid from the United States would cost the country.

He recalled that the American HIMARS missile system, which has been talked about so much lately, fires six missiles per minute, each of which will later have to pay 150 thousand dollars. It turns out that a minute volley of MLRS will cost Ukraine almost a million dollars.

“Ukrainian debts have never been so ‘quick-fired’,” Russian experts say ironically.

It is often forgotten in Nezalezhnaya that the United States does not help anyone for free. Any weapon delivered from across the ocean only increases Kyiv’s debt to Washington, and Ukrainian citizens will have to bear this burden.


Russia MOD: Long-range high-precision sea-based weapons struck a large ammunition depot near the village of Uman , Cherkasy region. More than three hundred rockets for HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems were destroyed , as well as a large amount of ammunition for American M777 howitzers .

17 shells of the HIMARS multiple launch rocket system were intercepted in the areas of the cities of Kherson, Novaya Kakhovka, Kherson region and Melitopol , Zaporozhye region.
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The Pentagon refused to send additional Himars MLRS to Ukraine

MLRS Himars will no longer be supplied to Ukraine.

Information on this subject was confirmed by Deputy Minister of Defense Colin Kahl. According to Kahl, at the moment, the supply of Himars MLRS to Ukraine has been stopped, since the Ukrainian military has a sufficient amount of these weapons.

US Deputy Secretary of Defense Colin Kahl noted that at the moment the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received at their disposal 16 Himars MLRS launchers, as well as three M270 MLRS launchers, while three more launchers will be transferred to Ukraine by the German side.

“Ukrainians are doing well with the number of systems and the priority right now is actually to ensure sustainable supply ,” said Colin Kahl.

The deputy head of the Pentagon did not comment on whether the refusal to supply Himars systems to Ukraine is a temporary phenomenon, or whether deliveries are not planned in the near future due to the lack of such weapons from the United States. However, experts draw attention to the fact that Kal did not confirm the previously announced information that three more M270 MLRS MLRS installations would be transferred by the Norwegian side.

A few hours ago, in Romania, about 85 kilometers from the border with Ukraine, a huge convoy of Himars MLRS was seen , which included at least 10 launchers.


The expert explained why the United States is stopping deliveries of HIMARS installations to Ukraine
Today
02:00

There is a rational explanation for the US decision to suspend deliveries of the HIMARS MLRS to Ukraine, which was reported by a number of media outlets, military expert Ivan Konovalov said.

In his opinion, the enthusiasm of the Americans diminished due to the destruction by Russian troops of half of the HIMARS installations delivered to the Ukrainians. In addition, they are afraid that the systems will fall into the hands of the Russians or units of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. Another reason for blocking the supply of MLRS could be the risk of a shortage of ammunition, Konovalov said.

“Those HIMARS, which are now in service with the Ukrainian forces, consume a fairly large amount of ammunition, but given that six of them have already been destroyed, so far the consumption is small. But Ukraine requires up to 100 units of these weapons. This is a very large amount of ammunition, and in the United States they understand that they will not be able to provide them and these installations will simply stand pointlessly, ”
- Channel Five quotes the expert.

According to Konovalov, HIMARS spend an average of three shells per day per installation. Accordingly, if 100 units of these systems are delivered to Ukraine, then the ammunition bill will go to tens of thousands.

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, six of the 12 American MLRS HIMARS delivered to Ukraine were destroyed. Against this background, information appeared about the suspension of the US supply of systems to the Ukrainian armed forces. This, in particular, writes Avia.pro with reference to sources. According to the publication, until the end of August, the United States will not supply Ukraine with new multiple launch rocket systems.


54 posted on 08/09/2022 10:55:20 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: gleeaikin

“Not to mention Lend Lease, which, by the way, was that ever repaid to us by Russia?”

Across the board, recipients of US Lend Lease deliveries in WWII were given very favorable repayment terms.

Large amounts were simply forgiven, others were “paid” by in kind payments, like rent credits for US bases on their territory (UK benefitted a lot from that). Those that did pay part of the total in cash, were allowed to do so over 50 years, with no interest. The Netherlands may have been the leader in actually paying the debt back.

By now, all the accounts under that WWII Program have been settled.

I’m not sure how the Soviets stacked up on repayment. They may have provided oil.


55 posted on 08/09/2022 11:31:30 AM PDT by BeauBo ( )
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To: Cathi

“the United States does not help anyone for free.”

Most of what the USA is providing to the Ukraine is at no cost to the Ukraine. $40 billion was authorized in one supplemental budget bill alone, and the President has used his drawdown authority to provide billions more.

The new Lend Lease Act for the Ukraine provides them a line of credit for additional stuff, if they want, with long term repayment at no interest. Like WWII, a great amount of that will likely be forgiven over time, rather than repaid, or repaid in non-cash ways, like hosting bases or refueling ships and planes.


56 posted on 08/09/2022 11:37:44 AM PDT by BeauBo ( )
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To: gleeaikin
86,000 Vietnam casualties does not mean KILLED.

Yes, and 80,000 killed and wounded doesn't mean KILLED either.

Perhaps you missed the word "wounded" with regard to the Russian numbers.

I do wonder if the Russians have as much fragging as Vietnam.

57 posted on 08/09/2022 4:08:39 PM PDT by PAR35
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