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To: popdonnelly

I am just real tired of hearing propaganda from all sides.
Seeing Dr. Z in his clean t shirt mugging it for the cameras. You don’t think Russia could carpet- and firebomb Kiev if they really wanted to? You don’t think they could bomb all dams, factories, power generators?.. If Ukraine could counterattack and drive straight to Moscow couldn’t they do it now since the Russians are losing?
Obviously the people outside of the conflict itself know or are telling very little. There is no way to take sides. Even the reason for the conflict is murky. I believe it is like so much fake news...great for media business people making money on viewership and clicks.


78 posted on 08/30/2022 8:31:27 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Getready
Obviously the people outside of the conflict itself know or are telling very little. There is no way to take sides. Even the reason for the conflict is murky.

I agree that the daily propaganda is excessive, but there is plenty enough information to take sides because the core fact of Russia rolling over the Ukrainian border and seizing territory that wasn't even anywhere near the Donbass isn't in dispute.

There's also nothing murky about whether Ukraine was trying to join NATO. So that just boils down to a judgment on whether Ukraine saying "we'd like to join NATO someday", and NATO responding with "Someday, maybe you can" justified that Russian invasion.

80 posted on 08/31/2022 7:28:01 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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