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FNC’s Kilmeade: ‘Zero Tolerance’ Abortion Restrictions ‘Freaked Out’ People, Hurting Republicans
Breitbart ^ | 08/30/2022 | Pam Key

Posted on 08/30/2022 6:11:31 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: odawg

“Then why are there total bans in some states?”

Either they existed 100 years ago (Arizona) OR they were passed knowing they would not take effect because of Roe.

States NOW have the right to make abortion laws, and those laws WILL be adjusted to suit the people in that state. And what you will find is almost no state - IF ANY - keep a law that totally bans abortion. Kansas is hardly a raging liberal state, but people freaked out at the very prospect of a total ban.

Morally, it is different. But politics involves what is possible, not pure morality.


41 posted on 08/31/2022 9:00:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Mr Rogers

“Either they existed 100 years ago (Arizona) OR they were passed knowing they would not take effect because of Roe.”

No, nope, only passed recently when the Mississippi case was headed to the Supreme Court.

The total ban is nonsense, always has been. People always righteously throw up the rape and incest argument, which happens but only rarely. So, the solution to all of this, they maintain, is to open the floodgates and let 60 million babies be murdered.


42 posted on 08/31/2022 9:18:44 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

Arizona has a law dating back before statehood banning almost all abortions. It passed in 1864 and may or may not be in effect.

It also has a recent law criminalizing abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.

I believe there IS good political support statewide for the recent law. Doubt there is much support for the 1864 law. Both were on hold until the right to make laws was returned to the state.


“Five days after the Supreme Court’s decision, Brnovich said the state’s 158-year-old law remains in effect.

Under the 158-year-old law, anyone who facilitates a procedure that causes a miscarriage or abortion can face two to five years in prison. While Arizona’s law makes it a crime to aid a woman in a miscarriage or abortion, the law does allow for such procedures if they are “necessary to save her life.”

“Our office has concluded that the Arizona Legislature has made its intentions clear regarding abortion laws,” Brnovich wrote on Twitter earlier in the month.”

https://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/072222_pp_brnovich_abortion/brnovich-suit-allow-enforcement-1864-az-abortion-ban-set-aug-hearing/


43 posted on 08/31/2022 11:05:53 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Mr Rogers

“It passed in 1864”

I cannot damn believe you hardheaded people. I am intimately acquainted with Louisiana and Mississippi and their abortion laws were passed very lately and the one in Louisiana had “trigger” laws in it, based on what the Supreme Court would rule on the upcoming Mississippi law.

Other states did the same thing. Now, you can go back in history and find any law you want in some state. ALL the abortion laws that were on the books previous to Roe v Wade were declared unconstitutional long ago, so the states had to start over. Louisiana has been passing laws against abortion for at least twenty years, and they were all shot down in the Federal courts based on the Roe v Wade ruling.


44 posted on 08/31/2022 11:45:58 AM PDT by odawg
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Liar. Worse than a Dem.

They lie as if ALL abortions are illegal.


45 posted on 08/31/2022 12:50:56 PM PDT by Fledermaus (With Trans Republicans like McCarthy and McConnell do we really want them to win Congress in 2022?)
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To: odawg

Try reading and LEARNING, Mr Know It All!

“Five days after the Supreme Court’s decision, Brnovich said the state’s 158-year-old law remains in effect.”

Brnovich is the Arizona State AG.

“Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich said Wednesday that a 158-year old Arizona law declaring that anyone who facilitates a procedure that causes a miscarriage or abortion can face a prison sentence between two to five years is now in effect and effectively bans abortion in the state.

“Our office has concluded that the Arizona legislature has made its intentions clear regarding abortions laws,” Brnovich’s office said in a Tweeted out statement. “(The law) is back in effect and will not be repealed in 90 days by SB1164. We will soon be asking the court to vacate the injunction which was put in place following Roe v. Wade in light of the Dobbs decision earlier this month.”

https://www.azmirror.com/blog/ag-says-arizona-territorial-ban-on-abortion-now-law-of-the-land/

https://www.azmirror.com/blog/brnovich-wants-a-judge-to-lift-an-injunction-on-arizonas-abortion-ban-clearing-the-way-to-prosecute-doctors/


46 posted on 08/31/2022 1:08:40 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Kilmeade lives in a bubble

Play long to get along

We still have that here

Fewer than the Bush dynasty but still here


47 posted on 08/31/2022 1:30:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (Lawyers guns and money……I lived it…. Now I'm old…. I have wonderful children)
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To: bray

Feminism biggest culprit that and racism and slavery seen as original sins of humanity now

Truly white liberals wee wee or vaggie

Both make it happen

Without them not enough minorities to get over the finish line

Where I live women are fairly solid honestly

Another observation is as folks get younger from boomers down they get softer on culture incrementally


48 posted on 08/31/2022 1:33:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (Lawyers guns and money……I lived it…. Now I'm old…. I have wonderful children)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Men find the idea of Asian women - sweet sensitive and comforting with no harshness - attractive.

That ideal used to be a part of how White women were portrayed in movies.

Gail Russell in the John Wayne Western, Angel and the Badman, is the perfect example.


49 posted on 09/03/2022 9:31:39 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

All abortion bans need to be from conception forward and the pro-life movement is failing to insist on that.

It would only take two people to make that happen.

Kristan Hawkins of Students for Life.

Lila Rose of Live Action.


50 posted on 09/03/2022 9:34:05 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: thegagline

The Kansas proposal failed because it was a murky mess.


51 posted on 09/03/2022 9:35:05 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Husker24

Please explain why I should, according to you, endorse laws that would allow someone to kill my baby daughter or baby son for any period of time from conception forward.


52 posted on 09/03/2022 9:37:56 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Mr Rogers

I, as a man, do not want any woman to be legally authorized to murder my baby daughter or baby son within a 12-to-15 week window.


53 posted on 09/03/2022 9:41:24 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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