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F-15 VS AR-15: Bet on the Guys With the Guns
Townhall ^ | 9/5/2022 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 09/05/2022 12:39:06 PM PDT by Segovia

Father of the Year and alleged President Joe Biden is busy trying to rile up his base of weirdos, adjunct professors, gender studies grads, government timeservers, sexually unsatisfied wine women and their sexually unsatisfying life partners. That’s why Dork Brandon pulled one of my favorites out of his Big Duffel Bag O’ Hack Cliches, the old “Your puny guns are no match against the awesome power of the US military which I will use to kill you for dissenting!” narrative.

Okay, fine. Let’s go over this again for the knuckleheads who think that they prevail if they step outside the “use your words” paradigm they grew up with in their sissy private schools. You lose if you idiots provoke a real civil conflict – not the kind of low-intensity urban conflict of the Seventies where you cheered on the Weathermen and Cinque’s SLA, and not the kind where a bunch of mutants riot under the protection of leftist municipal governments in leftist municipalities, but a real one. One where the people you want to crush under your Birkenstocks fight back. With AR-15s.

I discuss this in great detail in my new non-fiction book We’ll Be Back: The Fall and Rise of America, and not from the perspective of half-wit daughter-showering goofs but from the real down and dirty of how this terrible course of events would actually unspool. And it would go poorly for a largely unarmed, untrained, urban-centered population of smug geebos whose primary weapon system is a snarky tweet.

CARTOONS | MARGOLIS & COX VIEW CARTOON The doddering moron shared his tactical insights with his audience at a rally in Pennsylvania for Heart Attack Shrek. He said, thinking he was super-clever, “For those brave right-wing Americans... if you want to fight against the country, you need an F-15. You need something little more than a gun.”

Hmmmm, but do they? Really?

Grandpa Badfinger’s premise is that all you tens of millions of semi-fascists out there with your AR-15s would have no shot stopping the woke military, which would eagerly crush you with their potent force package of F-15s and esoteric pronouns. It is a flawed premise on more grounds than one column can cover (hence my book), but we need to focus and that means we will need to overlook some important questions. These important questions include:

– Why do you imagine your sorry band of socialist creeps who treat the Constitution like Jerry Nadler treats his boxers constitutes “the country?”

– The useless senior officer corps aside, why do you believe the normals who make up the vast majority of America’s combat forces will gleefully butcher their friends and family for the amusement of a bunch of Chardonnay-swilling blue checks?

– Have you ever heard of Afghanistan?

Let’s focus on his key sound bite. Gun vs. Jets…who ya got?

I’m putting my money on the guns. You dumb progressives can go for the jets and the points.

Now, let’s start raising the kind of facts that tend to undermine the soundbite that launched a thousand MSNBCgasms.

First up, what does a gun do? What does a fighter-bomber do?

Well, a gun gives an individual soldier – and that’s what civilian freedom fighters would be – the ability to dominate the space on the ground around them out to a couple hundred meters of open territory (let’s not argue about maximum effective ranges, or the fact that civilians have a lot of weapons that outrange the 5.56mm weapons systems currently used by the military – a weapon system whose bullets Mr. 10% Off The Top thinks fly “five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun”). In other words, a gun controls space on the ground. Coincidentally, the ground happens to be where people live.

A jet fighter dominates air space and keeps other planes away. Few people actually live in the air. Now, a jet fighter bomber like the F-15 can drop bombs on the enemy – which is, according to Crusty, us freedom-loving American citizens. Of course, this kind of tactical employment works to support guys on the ground dominating terrain with guns. Planes don’t hold territory; they help soldiers hold territory. So, it’s an apples and oranges thing at the threshold, which is appropriate since the whole discussion Slow Joe began is pretty much Fruit Loops.

Biden assumes he’s got soldiers to support with his jets. How many? Who knows? Some. But lots of colonels and generals, the kind who add (he/him) or (zip/zap) to their official signature blocks – would salute and carry out order to kill other Americans. Hey, maybe they can win this war and finally get one in the “Win” column after three decades! They’re due!

But the problem for them is quantity. There are tens of millions of American patriots with guns, AR-15s being only one color in the rainbow of freedom-defending firearms. Real diversity is 5.56mm alongside 7.62mm and .30-06 and 12 gauge and .45 and others, all firing together for a brighter tomorrow. So, there better be a lot of airplanes to balance out millions of patriots.

Um, how many fighter-bombers do we have anyway?

Well, let’s give America’s Greatest Matlock Superfan the benefit of the doubt and include all types of fighter-bombers – F-25s, F-16s, F-18s, F-35s and even A-10s. Let’s see – there are about 1750 planes for the Air Force, about 1100 planes for the Navy, and maybe 300 for the Marines, so call it 3150 aircraft. Okay, where are they? You have to have them here in America if you want to kill Americans for refusing to obey, so how many are in the continental United States and available for Hunter’s Dad’s open season on dissidents?

Call it two-thirds. We have lots of planes forward deployed – Europe, Asia, on ships. He’s got about 2000 aircraft to use to kill other Americans – that’s what he was saying, so we’ll take him at his slurred, semi-coherent word. Add maybe another 400 combat drones in the USA.

Now, there’s a thing called the OR Rate – operational readiness. That’s the percentage of planes that are ready to go at a given time. Planes need maintenance. They break, and even routine use requires massive upkeep efforts. And parts can be hard to get, especially when you are spending all your money on woke nonsense. What’s the real OR Rate? I don’t know – it’s probably classified and, as we know, today exposing classified material is bad and we can’t wait for it to go back to being A-OK when Hillary does it again, or when someone leaks something classified to the NYT or WaPo and they publish it. Let’s assume 75% – that loud laughing you just heard is military aviation professionals scoffing at a consistent 75% OR Rate.

This means President Gumby has 1500 planes and 300 drones to suppress those millions of dissenters. Hey, that’s 36 aircraft a state!

That’s still a lot of platforms and they can still do a lot of damage – assuming there are enough bombs stored in our bunkers (The Hellfire missile stocks would vanish quickly and aren’t those made in Florida? Awkward!). Can that fleet of aircraft do enough damage to deter and defeat a few million red rebels? How does one say “I am unconvinced” in Pashto?

Recommended Come on, Hurricanes, Get With the Climate Change Program Mark Lewis To get a better result in America than in Afghanistan, The Great Unifier would have to dramatically increase the firepower used – again, on Americans on American soil. You can bet the rules of engagement on Republicans would be a lot looser than the ones on the jihadis. But he forgets that the guys with the AR-15s get a say regarding those F-15s.

Wait, how does an AR-15 defeat an F-15? You can’t really shoot it down. No, but you can shoot it up on the ground. And you can ambush its logistics. And the pilots – well, the old Irish Republican Army (not the later, communist one) a century ago was getting clobbered by a bunch of Scotland Yard detectives in Dublin sent over from London, so they surveilled the coppers and one morning launched a coordinated operation to assassinate the whole lot of them. Remember, pilots (including drone jockeys) do not grow on trees. It’s no secret, except to dumb people, that the weak point in a military machine is the meat-sack in the driver’s seat. And don’t imagine the people having bombs dropped on them are going to be nice to the guys dropping the bombs on them and their families – or to Biden’s pilots’ families. When you okay dropping JDAMs on civilians, you don’t get to dictate payback.

The enemy always gets a vote – and Biden just announced that his enemy is tens of millions of us patriotic citizens. So, in the great AR-15 vs. F-15 hypothetical – and pray it stays hypothetical despite the stupidity of our ruling caste – the smart money is on the numbers. But the truly smart course of action is to not to even go down this road, to re-embrace our Constitution and to stop trying to be butch in order to get some Twitter love from the pinkos. Maybe this ridiculous stooge masquerading as our president should stop running his fool mouth threatening to slaughter other Americans.

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Positively awsome rant.... who can disagree with this?
1 posted on 09/05/2022 12:39:06 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: Segovia

Nothing says Dictator quite like threatening military force against your own citizens.


2 posted on 09/05/2022 12:44:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Segovia

DarkBrandon rising.....FJB.


3 posted on 09/05/2022 12:53:36 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: Segovia
And it would go poorly for a largely unarmed, untrained, urban-centered population of smug geebos whose primary weapon system is a snarky tweet.

Just a minor observation everyone can pass along to any prog spouting trash talk about a civil war, one can not win such a war by stuffing ballot boxes, taping cardboard over windows or running stacks of votes through counting machines 5 - 6 times.

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4 posted on 09/05/2022 12:53:44 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Nothing says Dictator quite like threatening military force against your own citizens.

Except, of course, actually using military force against your own citizens!

It is a use it or lose it situation.

The lose it moment is when a republican congress gets sworn in...

5 posted on 09/05/2022 1:01:15 PM PDT by null and void (Never suspect dishonest men of making honest mistakes.)
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To: Segovia

He doesn’t have anything. While Pilot is flying, his home is being burned down. But whatever.


6 posted on 09/05/2022 1:03:52 PM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: Segovia

Only a fool would walk into a warroom convinced of his victory.

no no no. A civil war will end with millions of us dead. The losses will be lop-sided in their favor.

A night of the long knives style of terrorist round-up will remove about 90% of the patriots who would willing stand up and fire in the other direction. In about 1 month we will be completely deprived of the patriot who is willing to kill another person and understand that we are in a kinetic war. In one month we will lose our bravest and most important battlefield asset.

Then come the smarter folks who aren’t so willing to shoot back. Perhaps they hide the guns, perhaps they don’t believe guns will help anyway (I can talk more to that point as well). They will form underground sabotage groups and carry out surgical strikes against important targets.

IF those proud, mostly southern and redneck, patriots who would die for our flag would stop for a moment and consider the long game and simply go underground - incognito - We could make their long knives strategy fail and in a month be completely ready to take out the whole f*cking gaggle in about 2 weeks time. And without a single civilian casualty.

Many of you here will reply and roast me for being a coward. But when they come door to door I won’t be there. I won’t be anywhere. Let them pass and then come out of the wood work.

No matter how much ammo you have you aren’t going to shoot at an authority army until they give up. They won’t give up. You’re leaving in a box. your guns and ammo will be confiscated and removed from the rest of us trying to fight in a smarter fashion.

So no, this rant is fun but it’s horsesh!t. This is going to hurt. Bad.


7 posted on 09/05/2022 1:04:02 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: null and void

Not necessarily

Uniparty


8 posted on 09/05/2022 1:11:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Segovia

Out-fricking-standing! Let’s Go Brandon!


9 posted on 09/05/2022 1:12:37 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Celerity

We aren’t just going to shoot back. Bridges will be blown, houses will be torched, it will be complete asymmetrical warfare on both sides. It will absolutely ugly. Probably 20,000,000 killed.

This is no joke; not saying anyone finds it funny, other than our idiotic fake President.


10 posted on 09/05/2022 1:16:10 PM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: Segovia
I printed out a hard copy and posted it everywhere I could.

I get tired of "likes" . . . who cares whether you like it or not.

If you really like it . . . YOU'LL TAKE THE TIME TO SHARE IT.


I suppose I'm blessed with a dinosaur mouse and PC because I can copy and past in a couple of seconds blindfolded.

11 posted on 09/05/2022 1:25:35 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf
If you really like it . . . YOU'LL TAKE THE TIME TO SHARE IT.

I just posted this on TruthSocial.
As per Unintended Consequences:

One doesn't have to take out the operators of weaponry that murders our nation's innocent citizens.

One just has to take out the mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, wives, children and everyone else dear to said operators.

12 posted on 09/05/2022 1:32:01 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: Celerity

Oh, I tend to agree. The War Between the States was NOT even a “civil war”. It wasn’t even an insurrection, it was a war for southern independence. They had a chance of defending a territory. They had a chance of fortifications and some semblence of establishing “lines” of battle. The coming storm won’t have any of those pleasantries. Go read up on the English civil wars. When a country goes to war against it’s own people we go back to no holds barred wholesale slaughter. But, I’m not saying the patriots would lose, either. Schlichter is retired military, and he has a good perspective on this subject.


13 posted on 09/05/2022 1:33:33 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: Celerity

I think you are right. I don’t have ammo, and only 2 months of food. But the opening volley will be far worse than Fort Sumter and Bull Run. But, it won’t be a State versus State issue, it will not be a failed war of Independence like the Civil. It will be a fight for the control of our entire Nation


14 posted on 09/05/2022 1:37:18 PM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: Segovia

10 million men with rifles and a singular focus/goal could EASILY depose the US government and install a new one.

EASILY.

Laughably easy.

Compare: 400,000 US combat troops could not eliminate the 70,000 insurgents in Iraq.

In fact 1 million men, if committed, could get it done.

And in the upper echelons of the deep state they know it.


15 posted on 09/05/2022 1:37:37 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Celerity

Ah yes— “mostly Southern and redneck”. Sorry FRiend- the “rednecks” are all over the country nowadays, and properly free working citizens.

You should look up the term’s origin— when “rednecks” actually fought the US Army in the coalfields of corrupt counties with private armies of the coal mining companies. The Democrats (big D democrats of the states involved) ordered the operation,and not only in WV, but also Colorado. The issue then, as now, was energy needs of an industrial US— which our nowadays Democrats and their elite say no longer do we need to get our energy from our vast resources here, but must enrich, and enable the kickbacks to Democrats who say they should shut down for the sake of “global warming” sourcing our energy and dependence on foreign sources. Dependent on their Foreign pals.

The “president” in this case was Warren G. Harding a sort of republican

For reference, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain


16 posted on 09/05/2022 1:38:56 PM PDT by John S Mosby ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Segovia

Semi-fascists out there with your AR-15s would have no shot stopping the woke military, which would eagerly crush you with their potent force package of F-15s.

The Sun UK has a story today of a Ukraine guy with a shot gun shooting down a Russian plane and received an award.

I would send it to Pinocchio but I don’t want to dirty my PC.


17 posted on 09/05/2022 1:41:36 PM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: TreasonObserver

I really think “Those who choose to follow”, you know, modern day nazi collaborators, will experience a degree of fear as well.


18 posted on 09/05/2022 1:45:37 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: TreasonObserver

Those who side with the government will MOST CERTAINLY have their families targeted...and early in conflict.

All will have to migrate to bases.

Supplies will have to reach them...from somewhere.

It’s not likely to be from rural America. It will have to be a local supply.

Either way, easy pickin’s.

Petroleum, power, food, water in, and the sewage must come out.

Such easy pickin’s.


19 posted on 09/05/2022 1:48:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Celerity

Oh, for sure. I never participated in a war, and have no desire to. However, I watched Rambo 4 today. He said something that I believe is completely true. At some point, killing people becomes easy as breathing. I see this happening in Ukraine.


20 posted on 09/05/2022 1:50:24 PM PDT by TreasonObserver
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