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Decrying Ukraine war, Russian soldier seeks refuge in France
AP ^ | September 7, 2022 | LORI HINNANT

Posted on 09/07/2022 10:25:30 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin

Filatiev published “Zov" on the Russian social network VK in early August. The human rights organization Gulagu helped him leave the country a few weeks later, moving him from one place to another until finally helping him reach France.

He spent two days inside the Charles de Gaulle airport, waiting to be approved for entry.

In Russia, he said, “I understood that no lawyer could defend me,” he said, a muscle in his jaw twitching. On his wrist, he wore a silver bracelet adorned with a crucifix.

Filatiev said Russia's army is degrading by the day, unable to replace the soldiers who die, are wounded or who simply don't want to fight. Gulagu, the aid organization that helped him leave, said the government has begun recruiting prison inmates.

Filatiev said the Russian military has dropped all standards on who's fit to serve. “There's a 55-year-old guy who was lying on his couch, drinking beer, and he's filled up on watching propaganda on TV," he said. “And they take this person, put him in the paratroopers, I mean in the elite, in our group. And they send him to the front without any preparation.”

He describes this as an open secret.

“It's not because everyone was killed, as the Ukrainians say. It's because no one wants to be there,” said Filatiev. “Unfortunately, it turned out that I'm the first one who says so out loud.”

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 3dayspecialop; asplanned; defeat; failure; genius; globalistpropaganda; losing; pootyishitler; pootyistheantichrist; putin; putinkickedmydog; putinscaresmyhamster; smartandsavvy; sovietrussia; ukraine; ussr
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So there you have it. No one in Russia wants to be fighting in Ukraine. Those who are there are the undesirables, which explains their conduct. The longer this war continues, the more likely Putin's government falls.
1 posted on 09/07/2022 10:25:30 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin
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To: Zhang Fei; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68

Ukraine ping!


2 posted on 09/07/2022 10:26:26 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

You obviously have no respect for yourself whatsoever. Not one single drop.


3 posted on 09/07/2022 10:38:49 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Dr. Franklin
Previously reported on 8/30/22

The Mockingbird Propaganda Media is repeating the same story with different titles

Russian paratrooper flees to France denouncing army 'chaos'

4 posted on 09/07/2022 10:39:42 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Dr. Franklin

“The longer this war continues, the more likely Putin’s government falls.”

And there it is.


6 posted on 09/07/2022 10:43:17 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Fill your lamps!)
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--- "Russian soldier seeks refuge in France"

And French actor Gerard Depardieu sought refuge in Russia from Francois Hollande's massive "tax the rich" schemes.

7 posted on 09/07/2022 10:47:08 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow Government)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Thank you for the ping!


8 posted on 09/07/2022 10:48:02 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Ethnic Russian people see Ukrainians as a brother East Slavic nation - with Eastern Orthodox people.

They don’t understand the point of this war.

If Putin attacked Poland or Finland, he would get the Russian people’s support. But Ukraine? He picked the wrong war


9 posted on 09/07/2022 10:49:14 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“And French actor Gerard Depardieu sought refuge in Russia from Francois Hollande’s massive “tax the rich” schemes.”

France got the better part of the bargain.


10 posted on 09/07/2022 10:52:54 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: Chunga85; Dr. Franklin

Chinga, when trolls like yourself have to open your comments with a personal insult it tells us that we’re hitting the target.

Curious, what happens to you trolls when your masters in Moscow find out that you’re useless? Do they send you to the front?

Myself, I am sure you’d look awesome in a Russian uniform. All spiffy and shined up with your hands in the air.


11 posted on 09/07/2022 10:59:45 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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LOL   Every country has had its Eddie Sloviks.
12 posted on 09/07/2022 11:02:31 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

The complete Ukraine ping!


13 posted on 09/07/2022 11:12:17 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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Jeez Louise. What is it with all these older accounts going abusively pro-Russia? Over the last week, its been nonstop childishness and name calling. If this were grade school a teacher would step in.


14 posted on 09/07/2022 12:57:04 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0.)
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“What is it with all these older accounts going abusively pro-Russia?”

Sleeper/puppet accounts. Also part of what’s called “The Delphi Technique” of making a scant minority seem like a majority as a method of forming public opinion and national policy.

https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/cryptologic-spectrum/The_Delphi_Technique.pdf

You’ll also notice a corresponding decrease in activity from the more familiar Putinista accounts. This is because the people behind the accounts are now using multiple accounts to give a false impression of a mass movement when in fact it’s just a relative few individuals trying to pass themselves off as a chorus.

I’ve noticed a few accounts that were active at the start of the Ukraine war haven’t posted in months.

Meanwhile accounts that had been focused on topics like vaccines and ‘green energy’ or election fraud seem to have suddenly discovered a rabid passion for supporting Putin’s war of conquest.

They’ve also suddenly taken a notably anti-American turn that they never had before.

Add to this they often use the same buzzwords and narratives all at the same time. And then they stop using those same buzzwords and narratives at the same time the rest of us notice them.

Case in point: “Globohomo”

Used to be the Putinistas couldn’t get through a single post without using this term. Then the rest of us noticed that the people who most popularized everything gay on FR were Putin supporters. And then we called them out on it and they stopped using it almost all at the same time. This we see the Russian trolls sometimes switching up to insults about a person’s mental or emotional state - and these are serious insults in Russia where people were often imprisoned without trial based upon false charges of mental or emotional instability.

In Russia such an insult can often be perceived as a death threat.

Now with the Russian army on its heels and starting to give ground to Ukraine and in some places >>> without a fight <<< their messaging has become much more intense and often rife with unprovoked personal insults.

Those insults are even more conspicuous when they come from accounts that have no history of posting personal insults at other FReepers.


15 posted on 09/07/2022 1:18:34 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush; All

A simpler, more plausible explanation is that the FR commentariat of late has gone down the tubes and largely does not know right from wrong.

You, for example.


16 posted on 09/07/2022 1:37:34 PM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Chunga85

Again with the personal insults. Thank you for taking the low road and supporting the content of my post.

You go, Chinga!


17 posted on 09/07/2022 1:39:11 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush

Some of the pests are probably Russians. Others simply pay for the privilege of insulting others. They’re spoiled rotten and addicted to bothering people.


18 posted on 09/07/2022 6:30:39 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Dr. Franklin
Their psychopathy, Machiavellianism, narcissism, pride and compulsive dishonesty will defeat them.

Russia returned body of British volunteer Paul Urey with traces of torture
Euromaidan Press
2022/09/07
[Excerpt:]
"British volunteer is reported to have died in Russian captivity in July. Russia returned his body after negotiations in 1,5 months.

Ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets reported that the returned mutilated body of the Briton was missing parts and had numerous cuts and traces of torture."

Russia returns body of UK citizen Paul Urey: it’s mutilated, showing traces of torture

19 posted on 09/07/2022 6:40:13 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: MercyFlush

Here’s another likely motive behind some of the anti-Ukraine, pro-Russia comments. In a news aggregator, I just saw this.

“No to war and surging prices
World Socialist Web Site”


20 posted on 09/07/2022 11:18:58 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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