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Chess Is in Chaos Over Suspicion That a Player Cheated Against Magnus Carlsen
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 09/08/2022 | Andrew Beaton and Joshua Robinson

Posted on 09/10/2022 7:05:53 PM PDT by TheConservator

When the world champion withdrew from a major tournament after a stunning loss, it ignited suspicions of foul play. Hans Moke Niemann, his opponent, denied any wrongdoing. Chaos ensued.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carlsen; chat; cheating; chess; chessgeeks; hansniemann; magnuscarlsen; notnews; sports
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Wow! If true this is a major scandal!
1 posted on 09/10/2022 7:05:53 PM PDT by TheConservator
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To: TheConservator

Nobody cheated Carlsen. He’s a 31 year old crybaby.


2 posted on 09/10/2022 7:07:47 PM PDT by devere
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To: TheConservator

The guy has a track record of cheating online. For such a guy at only 19 to win with the black pieces against magnus…it screams cheating.


3 posted on 09/10/2022 7:09:46 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: TheConservator

Palming an extra rook and slipping it onto the board.

That old trick works every time.


4 posted on 09/10/2022 7:09:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I mean, I am not into the chess scene, but...how would that work? Someone running moves through a computer and somehow transmitting the move via signals of some kind?


5 posted on 09/10/2022 7:13:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: rlmorel

ooooooh

I like that idea!


6 posted on 09/10/2022 7:14:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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I just can’t see how this could be done...every twitch of the eyes would be scrutinized, never mind running the hand through the hair or touching the ear!

I really am puzzled how people would think it would be done.


7 posted on 09/10/2022 7:17:14 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: libh8er

It may scream to you, but there’s no evidence he cheated Carlsen.

Niemann made human-like mistakes during the game, and Carlsen made even worse ones and lost. In my opinion Carlsen disgraced himself by withdrawing from the tournament.

In his interview Niemann admitted he cheated online twice, once as 12 year old, and once as a 16 year old, but says he has never cheated in an over the board game. Until there is ever conflicting evidence, I believe him. Carlsen throwing a tantrum isn’t evidence.


8 posted on 09/10/2022 7:18:33 PM PDT by devere
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To: TheConservator
I was recently playing in a major chess tournament, and during setup I replaced my two rooks with Trump pieces. Trump pieces can move like queens or like knights. They are very powerful.

I got caught, and was disqualified. I blame this on liberal over-reaction.


9 posted on 09/10/2022 7:19:58 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: TheConservator

Cheated how? Adderall?


10 posted on 09/10/2022 7:21:54 PM PDT by Impy ("We didn't steal the election, we swear!!!" - Sincerely, The Election Thieves )
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To: Leaning Right

Well played sir. Well played.


11 posted on 09/10/2022 7:23:20 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: rlmorel

Yes it would. I won every chess match when I had a computer program running to help me.


12 posted on 09/10/2022 7:23:56 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump & MAGA are the only road to kep USA viable.s)
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To: BenLurkin

Lol.

I’m wondering how you cheat at chess?

Say, “look over there,” and move pieces when your opponent looks?


13 posted on 09/10/2022 7:24:02 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: rlmorel
I mean, I am not into the chess scene, but...how would that work? Someone running moves through a computer and somehow transmitting the move via signals of some kind?

For an over-the-board game, yes, that is what is presumably being implied: the player alleged to be cheating has some sort of access to an engine, either directly or through the help of an accomplice.

But at a tournament like the Sinquefield Cup, the players are scanned ("wanded," actually) before each round in an effort to detect illicit communication devices. As far as I am aware, no one has offered any plausible explanation for how Niemann was supposedly cheating. As it is, Carlsen to date has only cryptically insinuated that Niemann was cheating; he withdrew from the tournament without offering (at least not publicly) any explanation for why he did so. But Carlsen seems more than willing, at this point, to have the "cheating" allegations swirl around Niemann without saying anything himself about them.

To my mind at least, Carlsen comes across here as something of a gutless, entitled punk.

14 posted on 09/10/2022 7:25:43 PM PDT by DSH
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To: TheConservator

How do you cheat at chess at this level?


15 posted on 09/10/2022 7:27:40 PM PDT by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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To: Impy; BenLurkin; SaveFerris; PROCON
Better to play Risk. Nothing can go wrong.


16 posted on 09/10/2022 7:28:12 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: rlmorel

“I really am puzzled how people would think it would be done.”

You would need a confederate who would see the moves broadcast online and signal back electronically what the computer says is your best move. After Carlsen’s tantrum the tournament went to a 15 minute broadcast delay which makes any possible cheating much much harder. Basically the only cheating option left is a player with an implanted computer chip, and I think they scan for those too.

Carlsen now needs to do two things: apologize, and consult a mental health expert.


17 posted on 09/10/2022 7:29:57 PM PDT by devere
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To: TheConservator

Chess board by Dominion®.
Just Sayin’.


18 posted on 09/10/2022 7:33:05 PM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: I have an alibi.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Ever tried the Madascar Gambit?😁


19 posted on 09/10/2022 7:34:21 PM PDT by 6ppc (Democrats would have to climb Everest to reach the level of "scum of the earth")
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To: devere
Carlsen now needs to do two things: apologize, and consult a mental health expert.

I concur. Carlsen's behavior was shameful. The conduct of others at the top level of professional chess (i.e., Nakamura) surrounding this incident has hardly been much better. It would seem that everywhere one turns nowadays, it's Clown World.

20 posted on 09/10/2022 7:36:25 PM PDT by DSH
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