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Why Did US Torpedo The April Ukraine War Negotiated Settlement?
TFP Editor ^ | September 10, 2022 | TFP Editor

Posted on 09/11/2022 6:41:12 AM PDT by george76

Most Americans are unaware how close Russia and Ukraine came to ending the current war in April.

Last March 27, Ukraine president Zelensky told his people "Our goal is obvious – peace and the restoration of normal life in our native state as soon as possible."

He was hinting at what went unsaid: Ukraine and Russia, brokered by NATO member Turkey, reached a tentative fifteen-point peace plan to end the month old war.

Key points were Russia withdraw from all Ukraine except for breakaway Donbas and Crimea. Ukraine would pass on future NATO membership, pledging neutrality between Russia and NATO. Donbas and Crimea would undergo political transition based on self-determination to be recognized by both combatants. Ukraine security would be guaranteed by neighboring countries but no foreign troops would enter Ukraine.

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What’s not to like?

For the US weapons makers, the end to a weapons manufacturing boondoggle. That $60 billion in free weaponry to Ukraine fighters has depleted our ammo dumps.

For the US military, the end to a new perpetual war, albeit a proxy one, to relieve the boredom of peace.

For the political class, the end to the new Cold War with Russia to weaken, marginalize, and keep them from economic integration with Europe.

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So on April 9, Uncle Sam sent Boris Johnson, the latest version of America’s British Prime Minister poodle, to Kiev, to school Zelensky on who’s running the war. The UK, Johnson advised "was in it for the long run,” would not be party to any Ukraine, Russian agreement since the "collective West" saw a chance to "press" Russia and make the most of it. Johnson cannot be accused of subtlety.

Two weeks later, the US sent Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to Kyiv to reinforce Johnson’s warning and make clear the US and NATO were determined to use the war to "weaken" Russia. NATO ally Turkey has blamed the US and UK for sabotaging a promising chance to end the war early on.

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When it comes to provoking, preventing and prolonging senseless war, America always fails the test of peace. Getting back to the question posed: Why did the US torpedo the April Ukraine war negotiated settlement?

Because we can.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 09/11/2022 6:41:12 AM PDT by george76
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They were gearing up for war so they had no intentions of striking any deals as they haven’t since 2014


2 posted on 09/11/2022 6:43:10 AM PDT by caww (</>O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: george76

Because the Putin has a history of not keeping his word.


3 posted on 09/11/2022 6:45:37 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: george76

Whatever comes of all this, in retrospect and in the future, I firmly believe that the Biden Administration’s ‘support’ to Ukraine is based solely on placating Zelensky to keep him from revealing massive corruption of US politicians involving the Ukraine.


4 posted on 09/11/2022 6:48:40 AM PDT by Gaffer (Infidel, and proud of it!)
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Victoria Nuland didn’t spend 6 billion dollars from the American tax payer to take over the Ukraine to just have them turn around and give a bunch of land to Russia.


5 posted on 09/11/2022 6:50:40 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: george76
Authored by Walt Zlotow via AntiWar.com

Antiwar.com was started by Justin Raimondo, a longtime gay rights advocate and anti-war activist.

Justin Raimondo, a longtime gay rights advocate and anti-war activist, has died. He was 67.

Raimondo, who lived in the Northern California community of Sebastopol, died Thursday after battling lung cancer, said Eric Garris, his friend and co-founder of the website Antiwar.com.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/gay-rights-antiwar-activist-justin-raimondo-dies-at-67/

6 posted on 09/11/2022 6:50:41 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: george76

The America Marxists and swamp dwellers thrive on war.


7 posted on 09/11/2022 6:51:21 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: george76

Why surrender when you can win?

The battles continue but Russia has lost the war


8 posted on 09/11/2022 6:52:22 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: george76

Follow the military industrial complex ($).


9 posted on 09/11/2022 6:52:33 AM PDT by Mlheureux
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To: tlozo

Ramndio wrote for chronicles magazine. Died last year iirc


10 posted on 09/11/2022 6:55:07 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: george76

First, there’s no proof any of this is true

Second, the proposed “deal” amounts to a complete surrender by Ukraine, with nothing in return ... so why would they possibly go for that?

I’m calling RUSSIAN DIS-INFORMATION on this!!


11 posted on 09/11/2022 6:55:48 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Why? Well, because the war drives up the price of gas, so they want the war. The elites want the price of gas as high as possible so people will use less of it. This is supposed to change the weather or keep the weather from changing or something.


12 posted on 09/11/2022 6:56:55 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Hoes mad! LOL! )
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To: Chickensoup

My goodness it was 2019! Time is flying by!


13 posted on 09/11/2022 6:57:02 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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Key points were Russia withdraw from all Ukraine except for breakaway Donbas and Crimea. Ukraine would pass on future NATO membership, pledging neutrality between Russia and NATO. Donbas and Crimea would undergo political transition based on self-determination to be recognized by both combatants. Ukraine security would be guaranteed by neighboring countries but no foreign troops would enter Ukraine. ... What’s not to like?

Well how about the ridiculous unmentioned Russian demand that Ukraine disarm?

Russia's demands were Ukraine's recognition of Russian-occupied Crimea, independence for separatist-controlled Luhansk and Donetsk, and "de-militarisation" and "de-Nazification". Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba stated that while his country was ready for talks to resume, Russia's demands had not changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_peace_negotiations

14 posted on 09/11/2022 6:57:19 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: george76

Because war is more profitable to the ruling class. Period.


15 posted on 09/11/2022 6:58:32 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Mlheureux

You’re totally correct in your observation to follow the MIC, along with all the kickbacks to the Congress critters. I’m totally sickened by the so-called retired military top brass who have all gone on to head boards of military materiel mfgrs. or pseudo think tanks who hype these military conflicts to pad their wealth.


16 posted on 09/11/2022 6:59:49 AM PDT by taxpayerfatigue (Taxpayer Fatigue)
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To: canuck_conservative

agree, totally fake news.

sure, if Ukraine had given Russia everything it wanted and surrendered the war could have been over!

LMAO

By the same reasoning, the war could of been over at anytime, if the Russians surrendered and left all occupied Ukrainian territory !


17 posted on 09/11/2022 7:01:02 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Like when? Honest question.

Let’s talk about Obama and Biden and Clingon antagonizing Russia and their lies.


18 posted on 09/11/2022 7:01:40 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: george76

Because they wanted a war. Neocons always love war. Doesn’t matter who gets to do the dying as long as the money and power are good.

This war in particular is being used to destroy western civilization as it has been.


19 posted on 09/11/2022 7:02:29 AM PDT by dforest
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To: george76

Well, I suppose bloggers can make up anything they’d like, and there’s really nothing to stop them.


20 posted on 09/11/2022 7:02:46 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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