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'Passengers who don’t want to be groped, please use the rear train cars' announcement angers many
Sora News 24 ^ | Sep. 11 , 2022 | Casey Baseel,

Posted on 09/11/2022 12:29:01 PM PDT by george76

TOKYO Japan is very proud of its trains, and in many ways rightfully so. The country has one of the cleanest, most reliable, and most convenient rail networks to be found anywhere on the planet.

But it isn’t perfect, and the undeniably worst part of train travel in Japan is the possibility of encountering a chikan, or groper, onboard. Rail operators have tried various countermeasures to attempt to prevent gropings, but the actions of one East Japan Railway Co (JR East) worker have been drawing criticism after a video taken at Shinjuku Station in downtown Tokyo on Aug 30 recently went viral.

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The video shows a station worker on the platform of the Saikyo Line, which connects Tokyo with Saitama Prefecture, its neighbor to the north. Standing outside a northbound train that’s about to depart, the worker, holding a handheld microphone and speaking through the PA system, says:

“We have many security cameras installed, but there are many chikan. Passengers who do not want to be groped, please make use of the rear carriages.”

The message, and choice of words, has drawn a swift backlash online, with Twitter reactions such as:

“So should we just assume we’re going to be groped if we ride in the front cars? Instead of trying to change the victims, try to change the perpetrators.”

“Are they any women who don’t not want to be groped?”

“Companies and society should show the stance that ‘Groping is unforgivable.’”

“I want them to change this to an announcement where they strongly say that groping is a crime.”

“We don’t need to ask victims to defend themselves! What we need to do is to make sure gropers feel guilty.”

So why was the employee recommending that passengers “who don’t want to be groped” use the rear cars? In the evening rush hour, when the video was taken, the front cars on the northbound Saikyo Line tend to be the most crowded, since many stations on the line have exit stairways at the north end of the platform, making for the most convenient way for passengers to exit the station after getting off. Since chikan are most likely to strike on crowded cars, the recommendation to use the rear cars does have some statistical sense behind it.

As for calls to make chikan feel guilty by reminding them that groping is a crime, posters saying “Groping is illegal” are already common in Japanese train stations and haven’t done very much to stop the problem, and maybe it isn’t so shocking that anyone shameless enough to forcefully grope someone isn’t likely to have their behavior altered by an appeal to their decency.

Deplorable and unfair to potential victims as the situation is, some commenters could understand the sentiment of choosing to offer actionable advice instead of an ineffective reassertion that groping is illegal. Others, though, had suggestions for different messages they felt should have been included in the announcement.

“There are a lot of things you could take issue with here, but I think it’s a good to see JR East making verbal announcements about chikan countermeasures.”

“’People who don’t want to be groped…’ isn’t a good way to put it, but I’m glad they’re making an announcement.”

“They should say ‘Groping is a crime, and chikan will be thrown in prison for the maximum sentence.”

“Change it to ‘If you are groped, or see a groper, inform the rail staff immediately.”

One thing just about everyone seems to agree on, though, is that there were better phrases to use than “people who don’t want to be groped,” and that a different choice of words would have avoided accusations of insensitivity stemming from the possible interpretation of “If you’re riding in the front cars, guess that means you don’t mind being groped.” In the video, the station worker making the announcement doesn’t seem particularly used to addressing a crowd, pausing and stuttering as he speaks, so giving the assignment to a more polished public speaker, and/or providing a better prepared statement to begin with, probably would have saved JR East some headaches.

A spokesperson for the company has offered the following apology.

“The intent was to guide passengers towards less crowded carriages, but a portion of the announcement was inappropriate. We deeply apologize to those who were made uncomfortable by the announcement.”

JR’s statement makes it somewhat unclear as to whether the intended guidance towards less crowded cars was meant as a chikan countermeasure or simply for the purpose of greater overall passenger comfort. Either way, though, the fact that the announcement itself acknowledges the problem of chikan suggests that more could be done to address it, such as perhaps expanding the policy of women-only cars on the Saikyo Line (which currently are only available after 11 p.m.) to the earlier evening rush hour as well.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chikan; groped; groper; highspeedrail; highspeedtrain; highspeedtrains; japan; masterrace; passengers; rail; tokyo; train; trains
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1 posted on 09/11/2022 12:29:01 PM PDT by george76
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also known as “chikan”. My Stanford bud teaches in Japan. It’s real. Lots of myths he confirmed for me including “no foreigners allowed in our restaurant” signs to “no Japanese allowed” with big signs in northern Japan.


2 posted on 09/11/2022 12:34:30 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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Why won’t the gropers just go to the rear carriages now?

That’s where all the hotties will be.


3 posted on 09/11/2022 12:36:14 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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... “no Japanese allowed” with big signs in northern Japan.

OK, explain that one, please. ???

4 posted on 09/11/2022 12:41:20 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: george76
Groper medicine.


5 posted on 09/11/2022 12:44:30 PM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Japanese mom physically subdues man who groped her schoolgirl daughter.. Maternal retribution is swift and merciless, chikan learns..

https://soranews24.com/2020/07/08/japanese-mom-physically-subdues-man-who-groped-her-schoolgirl-daughter/


6 posted on 09/11/2022 12:46:05 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Kevlar butt plates under clothing. Hey, it COULD work.


7 posted on 09/11/2022 12:57:20 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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Date rape and date rape drugs are very common in Korea. High School girls all take the trains in Japan. They are often groped. Its a very strange society there. There are also lots of women who work office jobs during the day or they take care of children. But at night they make extra money as hostess’ in pseudo hookers in girl bars.

They have a different way of handling sex than we do.


8 posted on 09/11/2022 12:58:52 PM PDT by poinq
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“What we need to do is to make sure gropers feel guilty.”


Perhaps I’m ignorant, but this strikes me as a very Japanese reaction.


9 posted on 09/11/2022 1:02:28 PM PDT by hanamizu
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Maybe the ‘chikan’ can come he and run for president as a Rat. It seems to be a requirement now.


10 posted on 09/11/2022 1:04:49 PM PDT by Reily
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From the article: "Passengers who do not want to be groped, please make use of the rear carriages."

That's inferring, "Passengers who DO want to be groped, please go to the front carriages."

11 posted on 09/11/2022 1:10:23 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: poinq

Haven’t they heard of school busses?


12 posted on 09/11/2022 1:20:00 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: gloryblaze

It’s like for example, Alabama having “no Americans in our state”. They have a different set of culture, or Okinawa that is the vacation mecca of the Japanese, and Okinawans only “joined” within the last 100 years, for which they have a love/hate relationship with their fellow big city citizens who trash the place when they visit.

(btw, you go downtown Okinawa it’s like Rodeo Drive, lots of expats due to families of service members around the area)

If you need more proof, go to 12:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk7IipIQipE (my bud knows this bloke personally)


13 posted on 09/11/2022 1:20:02 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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there was even a time by bro got questioned by the cops. (The cops there LOVE to harass white foreigners but hide their tails when it involves the yakuza) . They thought he couldnt speak a lick of the language but he explained it was another dude with a suitcase.


14 posted on 09/11/2022 1:23:34 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: poinq

Oh yeah. It’s like the Vegas bar scene to the extreme. Every girl there is out for your Benjamins.


15 posted on 09/11/2022 1:25:10 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: max americana

Like Texas having “No Californians”?


16 posted on 09/11/2022 1:37:24 PM PDT by stevio
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To: stevio

Pretty much.


17 posted on 09/11/2022 1:39:15 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: Candor7

I had something else in mind.


18 posted on 09/11/2022 1:41:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: max americana

Alabama having “no Americans in our state”

Not a good example as Alabamans are very patriotic.

A better example would be:

Alabama having “no Yankees in our state.”

Though I know someone from Maine who felt quite at home in Alabama.

“No Auburn fans” or “no Alabama fans” seems more likely.


19 posted on 09/11/2022 1:47:31 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Neither a Democracy nor a Republic. "I did that," Joe Biden.)
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To: gloryblaze
... “no Japanese allowed” with big signs in northern Japan.

OK, explain that one, please. ???

I assume this would be due to persecution of the Ainu of Hokkaido, an aboriginal people marginalized by the dominant Japanese ethnic group. The Ainu are substantially distinct from Japanese in terms of genetic traits, and in insular Japanese culture that marks them out for discrimination. Sounds like in a few places they play tit-for-tat.

20 posted on 09/11/2022 1:55:25 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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