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That's not a real job opening: Some companies are posting 'ghost jobs' but don't actually plan to hire you — or anyone
MSN ^ | 9-18-22 | Rebecca Knight, Juliana Kaplan

Posted on 09/18/2022 10:19:14 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes

After applying to more than 300 jobs in the last six months without a single bite, Will no longer bothers to read job descriptions or research companies.

It's just a waste of time at this point, said Will, whose real name is withheld but known to Insider.

He spends six to 10 hours a day on LinkedIn churning out applications, but says that he and his peers with similar credentials — master's degrees and MBAs from top schools — are having no luck getting interviews.

"I'm seeing all of these articles about how companies cannot recruit people fast enough and how there's all these job openings," said Will, who aims to land a consulting role. "But I'm also seeing my own personal experience and seeing other highly qualified candidates who can't get interviews or can't get jobs and I'm like, 'Something is wrong with the system.'"

It is a puzzle in this remarkably tight labor market. While many employers can't find enough workers, some qualified candidates are applying to open jobs and aren't hearing anything back.

That applicants are, on occasion, ghosted by employers is nothing new, of course. But lately questions have been raised about whether a company's job postings are reflective of actual open positions, or instead "ghost jobs" — listings that employers are no longer actively hiring or recruiting for.

According to a recent survey of roughly 1,000 hiring managers conducted by Clarify Capital, a boutique lending firm, 40% of managers have had a job posting open for over two to three months; one in five managers said they don't plan to fill their current open job positions until 2023; and half of managers said they keep job postings up because they're "always open to new people," even if they're not actively recruiting.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: datamining; employment; ghostjobs; jobs; recruiting
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To: Tired of Taxes

I’m retired so don’t really care anymore but I’ve got friends in business mainly DoD and they say the quality of candidates they get for job interviews is pathetic. Most don’t want to work at work they want to work from home. Others they look at and don’t even want to interview them and their degrees are impressive but their knowledge doesn’t match what the degree states.


41 posted on 09/19/2022 4:11:51 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: KobraKai
What this guy wants isn’t actually work, its just a sit down on your ass all day ‘job’.

A CONsultant.... yeah, pretty much. What a life. Pay me to tell you what you "need to know" to do your job properly and get quality widgets out the door on time.

42 posted on 09/19/2022 4:15:50 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Fireone

If they have an office, and someone’s in it…


43 posted on 09/19/2022 4:44:50 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Fireone

Showing up in person might still work for an office or, more likely, some kind of hands-on work, but it’s rare. Most places prefer that you apply online so your resume can be imported into their HR system more easily. This is even more true for IT jobs; it’s pretty much expected that you apply online, since you need to be technology-literate to do the job.


44 posted on 09/19/2022 4:55:43 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Tired of Taxes

I get at least three calls per week from recruiters and double that in emails. I have no idea what this guy is talking about.


45 posted on 09/19/2022 5:00:47 AM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: MachIV

Years ago I long suspected that a lot of these job postings were legit jobs but the employer had no intention of considering resumes they might get from these ads because they already had in mind who they wanted to hire.
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Reminds me of how the NFL forces teams to interview minorities (POC) for head coaching positions. Pretty sure most teams know who they want to hire but must make the appearance to be fair and all of that bulljive.


46 posted on 09/19/2022 5:10:07 AM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: MV=PY

And no guard at the lobby who refuses entry. Generally going to a place cold is a waste of time.


47 posted on 09/19/2022 5:30:28 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Stop feeding the beast, and steal its food!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Remember Margaret Thatcher had an expression..”get on your bike” that is go look for a job..n
knock on doors..press the flesh..be pro active.


48 posted on 09/19/2022 5:34:13 AM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: buwaya
The best response is not to hold out for the perfect fit, but take a lower level position of any sort and either try for promotion, get hired by a vendor or business partner, or just keep looking all the while.

Good luck with that. A friends daughter graduated in May with a masters degree. She's applied for well over two dozen roles marked as "entry level" in her field and interviewed for about a dozen of them.

Keep in mind, these are ENTRY LEVEL! Each time she was turned down, she was told she didn't have enough experience.

WTF is entry level for then?!

49 posted on 09/19/2022 5:40:20 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Tired of Taxes
I'm a hiring manager and I can tell you that it is mind-numbing to sort through all the online resumes that come my way. I call it the resume mill. Often the same "person" applies for every open position in my company, which tells me that person is either blindly sending his resume to every open position or that person does not have any idea what he wants to actually do.

Most of my hires come through referrals. That is one way to almost guarantee yourself an interview, if you can get somebody already on the inside to vouch for you.

As well, there is a lot to be said for hand delivering your resume to the office and asking the receptionist if the hiring manager happens to be available for a quick meet and greet. That (the meet and greet) almost never actually happens but the gesture itself is sure to make an impression. When you learn from the receptionist that the applicant personally delivered the resume, you feel obligated to at least call the guy back and schedule an interview. At least I do.

50 posted on 09/19/2022 5:43:04 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,085,372 users on Truth Social)
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To: Tired of Taxes

My niece and nephew are both biomedical engineers and both have zero problem getting interviews and landing jobs. You need to be excellent, have in-demand skills and credentials, and be in the right industry at the right time. It’s always been thus.

That said, our kids have lots of friends in their 30s getting laid off.


51 posted on 09/19/2022 5:43:49 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Since Indians have now taken over recruiting, they use computer word matching for exact matching. You need to place the exact phrases from the job description into your resume. Not even remotely kidding. It is how the indians apply for jobs: Copy the job description into their resume.


52 posted on 09/19/2022 5:44:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Nateman
I’ve been doing job requests on Zip Recruiter for years.

And this is a major source of the problem.

Companies have resorted to reducing applicants to numerical algorithms. The computer decides first if you’re worthy — and weeds you out before a human being sees it.

A best practice these days is to bypass the system and go direct. Use your network to look for contacts within targeted companies and reach out to the hiring managers, name dropping along the way. You become a salesperson — regardless of the actual role — selling yourself as a commodity.

Computer-based recruiting has destroyed the company’s ability to look at the nuances that make a great candidate, and have reduced the applicants to mere check boxes. A candidate can have all the checks, but still be a lousy employee…

53 posted on 09/19/2022 5:49:11 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Tired of Taxes

Most companies have software that screens out most applications, you have to take the job qualifications and cut and past them into your Resume.. It does work as I have done it. I have a template resume and then cut and paste in the job qualifications.


54 posted on 09/19/2022 6:05:12 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Exactly-—

Most of those over educated idiots cannot do everyday things needed by an employer.

They want a 6 figure salary out of the gate with tons of benefits & add ons.

They haven’t even shown a prospective employer that they can show up every day, showered & properly groomed on time.

I haven’t seen a single person under 40 I would hire-—and I have done a variety of jobs over my lifetime.


55 posted on 09/19/2022 7:23:29 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: TomGuy

In my industry back in the day I used headhunters to hire employees who had the specific technical skills and experience we needed.

When I decided to “make a move” I went to one of the best headhunters and he got it done for me—quickly and easily.


56 posted on 09/19/2022 7:26:25 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: buwaya

I once interviewed for a job in a small company as the bookkeeper. Owner was a hyper type-—who was all over the map & hard to please-—especially when he didn’t know squat about accounting. (AND he was an expert at interrupting me over nothing when I was working.)

I wanted $XX for an hourly pay. He didn’t want to pay that much. I said: I will work for you for ONE week.

IF at the end of that week, IF you think I cannot handle the job-—I will leave & you do NOT owe me anything.

IF you want me to stay-—I get what I am asking & I get a raise of $1 an hour—at least—in 60 days or less.

I did stay-—He gave me raises before 60 days-—

Then the fool kept badgering me to get involved with his “PYRAMID” schemes. I was the only holdout... He finally fired me in a fit of anger when I told him NO for about the 70th time.

He didn’t get as good a bookkeeper after that.

I didn’t go back, either.


57 posted on 09/19/2022 7:29:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Tired of Taxes
This is how the phony H-1B scam works.

"A job is advertised. They interview a number of Americans for the job. All of them are mysteriously not hired. Then the company puts in an H1B application, lying and saying that they could not find an American to do the job. Then they import the lousy H1B worker who performs poorly and is paid 40% less than an American. This goes on and on. Halfway through the year, the 200,000 Hindu 1B quota is filled. Microsoft, Google and all the rest of the scum corporations run screaming to Congress yelling that they need more H-1B’s because of a horrific labor shortage in IT."

Link here.

58 posted on 09/19/2022 7:33:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Tired of Taxes

BTTT!!!


59 posted on 09/19/2022 7:35:55 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: central_va

A job is advertised. They interview a number of Americans for the job.

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Most of them don’t even bother interviewing Americans. Years ago, my bother-in-law was applying for IT jobs.
There were several companies that flat out told him that they were really not hiring, at least not Americans. They just had to advertised first before they could hire their H-1B applicants.


60 posted on 09/19/2022 7:43:31 AM PDT by kara37 ( )
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