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New Russian conscripts from mass mobilisation being sent straight to frontline, Ukraine says
The Guardian ^ | September 26, 2022 | Peter Beaumont

Posted on 09/26/2022 5:44:55 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Ukraine’s Armed Forces general staff has claimed some Russian conscripts from the Kremlin’s mass mobilisation are being sent directly to the frontlines in Ukraine without training.

Amid warnings from the UK’s Ministry of Defence and other experts that many of those conscripted were likely to get little meaningful training – and faced the risk of “high rates of attrition” when deployed – men recently mobilised by pro-Russian occupation officials in Ukraine were also being readied for the frontline.

Those included newly drafted personnel in Crimea as well as conscripts in the Luhansk region who have received draft summonses in recent days.

The latest moves came as it was reported that Russia has also closed its border to occupied areas of Ukraine with the neighbouring Rostov region for entry and exit ordering locals to appear at military enlistment offices within three days

The first wave of Russian conscripts have begun arriving for training in Russia amid widespread scepticism among outside western analysts over what impact the call up was likely to have on Russian capabilities in Ukraine.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: accordingtoplan; desperate; europe; genius; globalistpropaganda; mobilization; nato; noammo; notraining; peterbeaumont; putin; shriekontheretreat; smartandsavvy; snekbot; tacticalgenius; thegrauniad; thesnekbot; ukraine; war
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Straight into the Ukrainian meat grinder!
1 posted on 09/26/2022 5:44:55 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

The front line is very long and parts are uncontested. Thet’s where they will go and the real troops moved to the battles in progress


2 posted on 09/26/2022 5:49:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Timber Rattler

You comment like a rabid idiot.


3 posted on 09/26/2022 5:51:30 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Timber Rattler

From a contact in Russia:
On mobilization in Russia

One of my friends got mobilized recently. He’s a mobile gamedev and a conscientious objector. So he tried to flee his city (Petrozavodsk) and drove to the nearest border (of Kazakhstan) but the seemingly endless traffic jam made him return in despair.

That’s how they caught him and transported to the nearest voenkomat. He couldn’t believe his eyes. There was a WW2 veteran standing in line as a volunteer. Soldiers were given out vatniks sheathed in camo print. Boots with so many holes that they looked like crocs and kits with personal hygiene items that included condoms. Yes, condoms. A Russian analogue of Durex - Gusarskiye so naturally they were also peppered w/ holes - a point of hearty laughter of everyone involved

They were to be transported in cargo section of soviet plane to Ukraine.

They were allowed to “relax” for a few hours before that - i.e get drunk/high out of their minds and listen to the instructions of the Politruk who riled them up by talking about beauty of the Ukrainian woman and prosperity of the average household.

The tattered drunks of all ages were all ears. “Listen up, scum. You’re about to fly first class to a western democracy. So do what you do best: destroy their livelihoods and make them pay for being better than us. We will defile their land because we can. First and foremost, we are Eurasianists. We’ve learned from the best: Mongols, fascists and communists. You don’t need any training - it’s in your blood. No need for fancy gear either. The strongest will survive and bring his enemies to heel” as my friend later recalled speech.

So obviously he was looking for a way to escape this. He stood up and said “I’m gay”. A crazed mob jumped him and beat him bloody. But he smiled the whole time, ignoring broken ribs and bruises. Nevertheless he persisted. He’s going to prison for life for his orientation instead.

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1573720852004208645


4 posted on 09/26/2022 5:52:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

While (free and democratic) Europe has no access to Russian Media due to censorship, (non-democratic) Russians have access to all media, including Western media.

Thus the hope is that Russians read these propaganda stories, which are intended to keep Russians from following their mobilization orders.

LOL, as if they’ll have any success with this crap!


5 posted on 09/26/2022 5:53:20 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 42 degrees)
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To: Timber Rattler

The good news is that when this is all done, there will be plenty of single Russian and Ukrainian women available for dating!!!

I feel like Bill Clinton after posting that.....


6 posted on 09/26/2022 5:53:44 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Erik Latranyi

No need to wait. There has always been plenty of lonely and bitter women in Russia looking for foreign men.


7 posted on 09/26/2022 5:56:29 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: bert

If they are mobilizing former troops, these guys need orientation—not recruit training. I doubt they are on any front lines within a week—but their ramp up time should be short.


8 posted on 09/26/2022 5:57:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Timber Rattler

Putin is following the script from WWI. Soon the civil unrest will start in Russia. Hopefully, it ends the Putin regime.


9 posted on 09/26/2022 6:00:54 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: bert

With no training and rusty AKs and 80-year-old Mosin-Nagants?


10 posted on 09/26/2022 6:00:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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“Experts Believe Russia Low On Soldiers After Putin Spotted Trying To Teach A Polar Bear How To Drive A Tank”

Completely true! It was on the BBC, and in the Daily Mail!

https://babylonbee.com/news/experts-believe-russia-losing-war-after-putin-spotted-trying-to-teach-a-polar-bear-how-to-drive-a-tank


11 posted on 09/26/2022 6:02:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

They will wish they had enough training to be classified as high as cannon fodder. As it is, they are dead men walking. But hey, the officers and NCOs can still under report their deaths and still draw the dead men’s pay.


12 posted on 09/26/2022 6:08:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Travis McGee

I have several contacts in Russia, they tell me they have all volunteered to fight for Russia in Ukraine. They were turned away and told they were only taking trained and experienced reserves at this point. The Russians are very patriotic and know the difference between propaganda and facts. I wish that were true on FR.


13 posted on 09/26/2022 6:13:07 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This seems hard to believe.

Either it’s true, and Russia is super desperate for warm bodies, or it is fake news meant to scare more Russian men to flee rather than to report. Personally, I find it hard to believe that even Putin would sacrifice his people without letting them get the most basic training


14 posted on 09/26/2022 6:17:00 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: JoSixChip

American military recruiting video.
(Guess what demo is totally missing. No wonder we are missing all our recruitment goals by far.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIYGFSONKbk&ab_channel=GoArmy

Russian recruiting video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su00rJ5kqCw&t=3s&ab_channel=MilitaryReport


15 posted on 09/26/2022 6:17:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: z3n

From what I have read, it is mostly criminals, political prisoner and people who protest the war who are being sent to the front. So Putin empties his prisons of the opposition. It doesn’t matter if they fight and die or surrender because he is rid of them either way.


16 posted on 09/26/2022 6:27:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yep. The upside in the minds of the conscripts is free food and clothes. Then somebody sticks a gun in their hands with the order, “Go kill the enemy.” Conscript: “How will I know who he is?” Commander: “Easy. He’s the one trying to kill you.”


17 posted on 09/26/2022 6:35:05 AM PDT by LouAvul (Complacency is the enemy of courage.)
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To: Travis McGee
OMG, the difference between these two messages :-/


18 posted on 09/26/2022 6:38:10 AM PDT by Bobalu (This Republic is designed for a wholly moral and religious people. It will not work with any other.)
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To: Travis McGee

So US Army is about breaking stereotypes and the Russian Army is about gaining the admiration of beautiful patriotic women who sing well.


19 posted on 09/26/2022 6:44:25 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Dr. Franklin

Putin is following the script from WWI. Soon the civil unrest will start in Russia. Hopefully, it ends the Putin regime.


It’s already started in earnest. Russia is fortifying its borders with soldiers amid ongoing street protests. Putin’s sick USSR fantasy is coming back to life. It will have the same death this time, too. Soon.


20 posted on 09/26/2022 6:49:01 AM PDT by lodi90
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