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If Russia invades Ukraine, there will be no Nord Stream 2, Biden says
Reuters ^ | February 8, 2022

Posted on 09/28/2022 3:16:16 AM PDT by grundle

WASHINGTON, Feb 7 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden on Monday warned that if Russia invades Ukraine, there would be no Nord Stream 2, but did not specify how he would go about ensuring the controversial pipeline would not be used.

Speaking at a joint news conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Biden said, "If Russia invades... again, then there will be longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

When asked how he would do that, he responded, "I promise you we will be able to do it."

Europe's most divisive energy project, Nord Stream 2 is designed by Russian energy giant Gazprom to double the amount of gas flowing from Russia straight to Germany, bypassing traditional transit nation Ukraine.

The United States and Germany have sought to present a united front against potential Russian military aggression in Ukraine, with Biden declaring the two in "lockstep" despite questions over Berlin's commitment to scuttle the important energy pipeline.

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KEYWORDS: february2022; flashback; nordstream1; nordstream2; nordstreami; nordstreamii; notamericaswar; notglobalcops; notnatoswar; searchworks; secondflashback; swampniks; ukraineisnotinnato; vatniks
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To: glorgau

I believe we are now in Phoney War II. I’d prepare according my.


41 posted on 09/28/2022 4:36:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: Travis McGee
The rest of the world is looking right at us in horror, wondering what Senile Joe Biden [and his handlers like Victoria Nuland] will order next.

I think Europe just realized they're the new Poland. Everyone will take turns stabbing them in the back.
42 posted on 09/28/2022 4:37:14 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: patriotfury

I am profoundly embarrassed by the actions of our current idiot-ridden US government.....as well as you or any American should be. Bet.


43 posted on 09/28/2022 4:37:19 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Travis McGee
The rest of the world is looking right at us in horror, wondering what Senile Joe Biden [and his handlers like Victoria Nuland] will order next.

At the worst possible moment in our history, we have empowered a political class that is corrupt, amoral and decidedly anti-American. What they accuse others of, they themselves do. Thank god for clear thinkers.

44 posted on 09/28/2022 4:38:31 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Travis McGee

Well, since you are going to post this collage on every thread, I feel obligated to respond here, as I did elsewhere:

Taken as isolated soundbites, those statements raise eyebrows, no question.

But they are circumstantial. What is the totality of the interview? What was the context?

And, as for Sikorski, there is this response: “Poland’s Secretary of State, Stanisław Żaryn, denounced Sikorki’s claim on Twitter as ‘Russian #propaganda,’ calling it ‘a smear campaign against Poland, the US and Ukraine, accusing the West of aggression against #NS1 and #NS2. Authenticating the Russian lies at this particular moment jeopardizes the security of Poland. What an act of gross irresponsibility!’”

If this was your case in chief — and it would be your burden as the accusing party to present it — your case would be thrown out without further ado.

You are rushing to judgment.


45 posted on 09/28/2022 4:40:18 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Travis McGee

Blinken said it at some time or another as well.

******g psychotic maniacs.


46 posted on 09/28/2022 4:40:56 AM PDT by OKSooner (Blown up anyone else's pipelines lately? )
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To: MalPearce

“...One way or another...”


47 posted on 09/28/2022 4:42:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: grundle

That they shot their mouths off on this in the past and haven’t immediately denied it doesn’t look good.


48 posted on 09/28/2022 4:43:24 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: JonPreston

Now that we agree Biden blew up Russia’s pipelines, Russia has an excuse to use any means necessary to protect its interests.

Wow! We are so smart. /s


49 posted on 09/28/2022 4:45:18 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Travis McGee
Or was it Jake Sullivan that one saw on the news saying the same thing?

It's kinda hard to tell the two of them apart, if you know what I'm sayin'.

50 posted on 09/28/2022 4:45:36 AM PDT by OKSooner (Blown up anyone else's pipelines lately? )
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To: cuban leaf; MAGAthon; MalPearce

Just a couple of thoughts.

— If a Russian attack on a Norwegian (possession) line in Belgian waters had occured, it would go almost without saying as an attack on NATO.

— Russian constructed (possession) NS1 and NS2 are immediately adjacent lines, until the diversion near adjacent/proximal NE of Belgian isle of Bornholm, where all kinds of monthly and recent Russian underwater activity, and gas line “maintenance” involving Russia shutting off Russian gas on NS1, and other NS2 maintenance has been known. Russian naval vessels have been monitored and protested by Denmark and Sweden. Tbe Russian “vettes” are duel purpose naval SOP’s for keeping surface sub hunters out of the area, even while in foreign national waters.

🇳🇱 Anyone remember this —
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

And this —

🇳🇱 “...island of Bornholm.”

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

There is actually a whole lot more information, both OS and classified.

But even after all that, no one can 100% determine a blast itself was sabotage, or done by who, just because there was a blast.

That is just plain stupid and foolish.

Neither individual bias itself, nor overwhelming consensus determines a fact, truth, or science. 🇺🇸🎚


51 posted on 09/28/2022 4:54:33 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: cuban leaf; MAGAthon; MalPearce; ought-six

Just a couple of thoughts.

— If a Russian attack on a Norwegian (possession) line in Belgian waters had occured, it would go almost without saying as an attack on NATO.

— Russian constructed (possession) NS1 and NS2 are immediately adjacent lines, until the diversion near adjacent/proximal NE of Belgian isle of Bornholm, where all kinds of monthly and recent Russian underwater activity, and gas line “maintenance” involving Russia shutting off Russian gas on NS1, and other NS2 maintenance has been known. Russian naval vessels have been monitored and protested by Denmark and Sweden. Tbe Russian “vettes” are duel purpose naval SOP’s for keeping surface sub hunters out of the area, even while in foreign national waters.

🇳🇱 Anyone remember this —
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

And this —

🇳🇱 “...island of Bornholm.”

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

There is actually a whole lot more information, both OS and classified.

But even after all that, no one can 100% determine a blast itself was sabotage, or done by who, just because there was a blast.

That is just plain stupid and foolish.

Neither individual bias itself, nor overwhelming consensus determines a fact, truth, or science. 🇺🇸🎚


52 posted on 09/28/2022 4:55:53 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: ought-six

You can quibble about circumstantial evidence vs ironclad proof [or an admission of responsibility] until the cows come home.

But this is not a court of law, but the World Court of Public Opinion.

And in that court, Biden’s America is obviously, blatantly, in-your-facedly guilty.

Please see 36 and 38.

Also, please read these:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/whodunnit-facts-related-to-the-sabotage-attack-on-the-nord-stream-pipelines.html

https://alaff84.wordpress.com/2022/09/28/carbonated-baltic-their-answer-to-the-referendum-what-really-happened-at-nord-stream/


53 posted on 09/28/2022 5:00:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cranked

Kazan, I am so thankful for your Russian sympathy, pertaining to our current fraudulent puppet admindesistration, which is full of individuals who were directly in involved in Uranium-1, Skolkavo and it’s mass US military weapons and cyber tech transfers, and anti-US energy policies designed to strategically weaken US energy output, and then immediately act to purchase Russian and Iranian oil.

Kazan, you are so thoughtful in all of this.


54 posted on 09/28/2022 5:07:01 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: JonPreston; cranked
This is the REAL agenda.

During the Maidan Coup era, [under Obama/Biden], Victoria Nuland and Fiona Hill were virtually working at the same time for the George Soros Open Society Foundation. This came out during the Trump Ukraine impeachment.

State Dept. personnel across Eastern Europe literally also worked "on the side" for Soros and Schwab. Our embassies and Soros's NGOs and their staffs were comingled.

At the operational level, Biden is just another puppet like Zelensky.

This is "the big picture."


55 posted on 09/28/2022 5:09:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: patriotfury

And if NATO considers it an attack on NATO who cares? Russia definitely don’t.


56 posted on 09/28/2022 5:12:15 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Travis McGee
Nuland and Rice and a few other Obama shot-callers are still calling the shots, even today.

Victoria Nuland's villainy goes all the way back to "Iraq WMDs," through the Maidan Coup, to pushing Ukraine toward NATO, as a deliberate provocation to force Russia to engage.

None of this "just happened."


57 posted on 09/28/2022 5:17:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

“You can quibble about circumstantial evidence vs ironclad proof [or an admission of responsibility] until the cows come home.

What ironclad proof? All you have is assumption and innuendo. That is proof to you only because you want it to be.

“But this is not a court of law, but the World Court of Public Opinion.”

But if you are going to prosecute the Biden administration for committing what amounts to an act of war, then you’d better believe that prosecution will be in SOMEONE’S court of law. And, as for the “World of Public Opinion?” Well, your beloved Russia comes out on the short end of the stick there; because no one — not even Russia’s friends — are accepting Russia’s annexation of eastern Ukraine as legitimate or legal.

“And in that court, Biden’s America is obviously, blatantly, in-your-facedly guilty.”

In YOUR court! And you are biased, and have an agenda; and that blinds you. Some court! The courts of the Inquisition were more fair than your “court.”

Please see 36 and 38.

I read them. Anonymous Bloggers and twitters who think as you do, do not experts make.

You are a knee-jerk reactor; you rush to judgment. That’s fine when the subject is pedestrian, and harmless; but if it involves war, and people’s lives...well, that’s much different.

You are behaving the same as the Democrats who tried to railroad Trump. It’s as if you are twin sons of different mothers.

Let’s get the facts. And if the facts show Biden and his administration were indeed responsible, then prosecute them all to the fullest extent of the law, and let the punishment be severe.


58 posted on 09/28/2022 5:24:33 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: grundle

59 posted on 09/28/2022 5:24:57 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: grundle

China makes the goodies the world wants.

Russia needs to sell gas to China to buy some.


60 posted on 09/28/2022 5:37:00 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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