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Opinion: Micron earnings suggest the chip downturn could be worse than Wall Street expects
Market Watch ^ | By Therese Poletti

Posted on 09/30/2022 7:06:42 AM PDT by FarCenter

Micron Technology Inc. executives warned about a semiconductor downturn in late June, but now say that a “sharp and sudden” drop in demand exceeded even those expectations, suggesting the current chip glut could get a lot worse.

Micron MU, 0.74% reported a worse-than-expected fiscal fourth quarter Thursday, with revenue plunging 23% from last year, but that wasn’t the big miss. Executives guided for $4 billion to $4.5 billion in revenue in the current quarter, more than $1 billion lower than analysts’ expectations, and suggested they could post a loss in the quarter even on an adjusted basis.

“As we look ahead, macroeconomic uncertainty is high and visibility is low,” Micron Chief Financial Officer Mark Murphy told analysts on a conference call. He forecast the company’s inventories will continue to rise further from their high levels in the first half of fiscal 2023.

Micron’s report should send some fear through the chip sector and its investors — Micron reports earlier than other semiconductor companies because of its odd fiscal year, which ended on Sept. 1, so it can be a harbinger of what is to come throughout the coming earnings season. After Micron executives basically admitted three months ago that the pandemic-era chips party was over, other semiconductor companies such as Intel Corp. INTC, -0.11% and Nvidia Corp. NVDA, 1.10% disappointed investors with later results.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chip; chipglut; chips; chipshortage; glut; micron; semiconductor; semiconductors; shortage

1 posted on 09/30/2022 7:06:42 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Chip glut. There are a thousand or so trucks in an old empty GM parking lot here waiting on chips. Which is kind of ironic since that plant used to produce chips.


2 posted on 09/30/2022 7:09:21 AM PDT by pas
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To: FarCenter

This is terrible, just think of how many millions of 10 year olds will be sent to the unemployment lines in China...


3 posted on 09/30/2022 7:09:38 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: FarCenter

post-Xmas GPU prices are going to be a steal. Don’t buy now!


4 posted on 09/30/2022 7:10:02 AM PDT by montag813
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To: FarCenter
the current chip glut could get a lot worse.

Yet they say there is a chip shortage?

5 posted on 09/30/2022 7:11:19 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: FarCenter

Wall Street should change its name to Worse than Expected.


6 posted on 09/30/2022 7:11:20 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: eyeamok

One would have to have a heart of stone to not burst out laughing at the thought of that.


7 posted on 09/30/2022 7:15:47 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: FarCenter

IF there is a glut-—WHY are so many UNFINISHED vehicles sitting all around the plants???


8 posted on 09/30/2022 7:19:13 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: pas

>>Chip glut. There are a thousand or so trucks in an old empty GM parking lot here waiting on chips.

I think that the auto industry’s problem is that they use a lot of specialized microcontrollers and other parts made on semiconductor production equipment a couple generations old.

The IC foundries are not expanding production on these lines - they are “cash cow” factories that they continue to run without new investments since they regard them as obsolete.

On the other hand, the auto manufacturers would have to rewrite, retest, requalify software for parts made on newer technologies. It’s also not clear whether the newest technologies meet the longevity, reliability, and temperature range requirements of the auto industry.


9 posted on 09/30/2022 7:19:48 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: eyeamok

People may have to make their smart phones last longer than 6 months!


10 posted on 09/30/2022 7:24:11 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: FarCenter
Micro is an Idaho based business making computer memory chips. I'll have to check the "glut" issue. Perhaps a buying opportunity to bump my i9 box from 64 GB to 128 GB. The chips to populate to 128 GB cost 4x as much as the set to populate the board to 64 GB.
11 posted on 09/30/2022 7:26:41 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

I suspect that those high end DIMMs are not the ones in the glut. ditto nVidia graphics chips.


12 posted on 09/30/2022 7:40:10 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: pas

Memory chips. Specifically the more modern high speed chips.


13 posted on 09/30/2022 7:45:21 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: ridesthemiles

IF there is a glut-—WHY are so many UNFINISHED vehicles sitting all around the plants???

Because Micron makes MEMORY CHIPS, not processor chips.


14 posted on 09/30/2022 7:47:46 AM PDT by BradtotheBone (When I die I want the GOP to be my Pallbearers, so they can let me down one last time.)
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To: FarCenter

Micron stock rises after reporting mixed earnings
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/micron-stock-rises-reporting-mixed-161531137.html

Micron on Friday was up and also after hours.
50.10+0.09 (+0.18%)
At close: 04:00PM EDT
50.32 +0.22 (+0.44%)


15 posted on 09/30/2022 6:53:31 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: pas

#2 There are 45,000 thousand parked at a raceway.


16 posted on 09/30/2022 6:54:48 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: FarCenter
Update from Upstate NY...

Funds meant for Salina Sports Complex now diverted to new Micron facility

Those are taxpayer funds.

And now for the cui bono...

Micron Technology, Inc. Common Stock (MU)

The top three names should sound very familiar...

17 posted on 10/13/2022 4:51:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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