The Neocons and the Woke Left Are Joining Hands and Leading Us to Woke War III

Newsweek ^ | 10/4/22 | DAVID SACKS

[NeverCheney]

Elon Musk got in hot water again on Twitter—for proposing peace. On Monday, Musk proposed a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine, for which he was denounced as a pro-Putin puppet by the Twitter mob that has formed to police the discourse on all things related to Ukraine.

The president of Ukraine himself, Volodymyr Zelensky, accused Musk of supporting Russia—even though Musk's company SpaceX donated Starlink to Ukraine's war effort at an out-of-pocket cost of $80 million. (Full disclosure: Musk is a friend and I am an investor in SpaceX.) Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany Andrj Melnyk was less subtle, telling Elon to "f***k off," while David Frum tweeted without evidence that "Russian sources" had used Elon to float a "trial balloon" of a peace proposal because they're afraid of losing Crimea. Scores of blue-checks on Twitter followed their lead, ordering Musk to stay in his lane.

What matters in this story is not that Musk was told off, but rather, that a Twitter hive mind is using the same intolerant cancellation tactics that they use to shut down debate on domestic political issues in order to shape U.S. policy toward Ukraine. They are doing so by demonizing dissent, defaming opponents, and closing off as ideologically unacceptable any path to peace or even deescalation.

The online mob has decided that any support for a negotiated settlement—even proposals that Zelensky himself appeared to support at the beginning of the war—is tantamount to taking Russia's side, denouncing voices of compromise and restraint as Putin apologists. This removes them from acceptable discourse and shrinks the Overton window to those advocating the total defeat of Russia and an end to Putin's regime—even if it risks WWIII.

[robowombat]

I think this has already been posted.

[cranked]

Indeed they are....

“Russia’s ambassador to the US has rebuked the prestigious Stanford University for hosting an event which featured fighters from the controversial Ukrainian Azov Battalion, a unit in which some members openly espouse neo-Nazi ideology.

“It would appear that in its maniacal drive to tarnish and cancel Russia, the US is prepared to glorify Nazism,” Anatoly Antonov told the media on Thursday.”

“Russia reacts to Azov neo-Nazi’s platform at prestigious US university”
https://www.rt.com/russia/564642-azov-delegation-stanford-university/

NEOCONs and Woke in the US are lock step neo-Nazi supporters and sympathizers.

[Vendome]

1st I saw it...

[ransomnote]

I think people should know the Ukrainian military is led by a Commander in Chief who wears a Swastika on his bracelet to demonstrate his loyalty to the Nazi war effort in the Urkaine.

Have you seen his bracelet with the Nazi symbol on it? See the Swastika? Yes, he's so proud....

Here's the translation of his message in the tweet above:

The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian armed forces is still fighting on the Nazi side of WWII.

How about the Nazi symbol on the tank? Seen it?

 The Deep State Cabal tries hard to hide it from the MSM feeders, but it's an open secret that the core of the Ukraine regime/puppet masters and their military are fighting to win WWII for the Nazis this time, by staging WWIII.

[Joe Boucher]

Kicking shit out of Russian beast myth is priceless

[Williams]

This childish approach to foreign policy gets tiring.

Whether or not Ukraine was rude, or Zelensky wore a t-shirt, or they ask for a lot of money and weapons...

There is a war going on in Europe, Russia invading Ukraine, and all that matters are the consequences for the West if Russia wins, or if NATO resists.

These articles never take a serious look at what the world will be like with a Russian victory, Ukraine as part of a new empire, and the Russian army deep in the heart of Europe.

[NeverCheney]

The Western media lie as much about Russia as they do about Trump. Same media. Same liars. Too many freepers swallow the media’s crap when it comes to foreign policy. As if the media reporters and networks and newspapers that lie to us incessantly on domestic politics suddenly become worthy of trust when they’re reporting on foreign politics and foreign issues.

Too many freepers are still McCainiac sheeple, followers of neoconism and the big liars in the media.

[NeverCheney]

Ukrains was part of Russia for centuries. No American president - from George Washington to Ronald Reagan to Trump — said it had any impact on our national interests. But in 2014 warmonger John McCain said we needed to fight Russia over Ukraine. Trump said BS. (Which is why McCain hated Trump). Then, Biden came along and adopted the McCain policy on Ukraine and Russia - he goaded Russia into a war by trying to move NATO and nuclear weapons into next-door Ukraine. (The way Russia tried to move nukes into Cuba back in 62)

And you McCainiac sheeple are waving pom-poms in support of Joe Biden for adopting the McCain warmongering in Ukraine

You’re a sheeple. I am 1000 percent confident that you were cheering George Bush as a historic hero when he invaded Iraq, because you were a sheeple then too. Once a sheeple for the neocons, always a sheeple.

[jdege]

Wasn’t Crimea the traditional homeland of the Tatars, up until Stalin deported them in 1944?

Where were they sent? Are there any still around?

Maybe we should deport the Russians and give it back?

[Long Jon No Silver]

You have stated various countries have sent hit squads to kill Zelenksy. Which countries?

[Therapsid]

And all the important elite people will be underground never subject to the consequences of their own insane policies

[NeverCheney]

“Maybe we should deport the Russians and give it back?”

I don’t care what province in Eastern Europe or central Asia belonged to who, when, where or why. None of our business when we’ve got massive problems right her in America.

Did George Washington give a crap about whether Russia ruled Crimea and Urkaine? Did Jefferson? Did Jackson? Did Lincoln? Did Grant? Did TRoosevel? Did Coolidge? Did Eisenhower? Did Reagan? NOOO! None of them ever even spoke of it. NONE OF THEM ever said that Russia’s presence in these neighboring regions had any affect on American interests.

It was only when JOHN MCCAIN Started lobbying for war against Russia over Ukraine that this became an issue in America. And McCain hated Trump because Trump opposed this war-like agenda against Russia.

MAGA means Make AMERICA Great Again - not Make Ukraine Great Again. Fix Chicago, New York, San Franciso, and Los Angeles, — then come back and maybe we can talk about what’s happening in some provinces half a world away.

[FreshPrince]

Sucker!

https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20221012-ukrainian-general-swastika-bracelet-debunked

[proust]

Pay no attention to how much money he's asking for or where it's going.

[FreshPrince]

Of course the attempted reconstitution of the evil empire by putin wasnt the issue back then or the evil empire didnt exist. Just sayin.

[Angelino97]

NEOCONs and Woke in the US are lock step neo-Nazi supporters and sympathizers.

Not so much in agreement as using each other. Neocon Globalists and Azovists have differing visions for a future Ukraine, and plan to oust their ally from Ukraine as soon as their common enemy (Russia) is defeated.

[ransomnote]

That's what you are, indeed! You hang upon the MSM and their fact checkers like a suckling pig. But, they lie. That picture, the one with the swastika, the woman with the Black Sun icon on her flak vest - all are targeted for fake debunking. Your clue is it takes days if not weeks or months of silent mortification until they shake a fake 'debunk' out and people like you then suddenly 'get a voice' and yell 'sucker!'.

All a person has to do is post it on a thread - confront Nazi supporters with proof and VOILA! Deep state 'debunks!' You should see how much of what Trump has said has been 'debunked' the same way. So you have me wondering, why do YOU support the Nazis?

Note the Schwarze Sonne on the female Ukazi's flak jacket. It's the pic Nato was trumpeting till the nazi symbol

was pointed out and they took it down

[Angelino97]

I don’t care what province in Eastern Europe or central Asia or the Middle East belonged to who, when, where or why. None of our business when we’ve got massive problems right her in America.

[NeverCheney]

“the evil empire didnt exist.”

Ukraine has been part of RUssia since before George Washington’s time. That’s what you’re calling an “evil empire” than “didn’t exist” hundreds of years ago? With respect, go check out a history book at your local library.