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"The lieutenant colonel said that Allah is a coward." Religious conflict could be the reason for the shooting at the training ground in Belgorod - Astra
The Insider ^ | 16 October 2022 08:06 | The Insider

Posted on 10/16/2022 3:07:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

One of those present at the training ground in Belgorod during the execution by some mobilized others told the Astra Telegram channel that the cause of the conflict could be religious - shortly before the incident, Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Lapin said that Allah is a coward, since he does not allow Muslims to fight for a country where you took an oath. The authors of the material emphasize that at the time of publication they were unable to independently confirm the identity of either the narrator himself or the identity of other persons appearing in the story.

“It all started with the fact that some of our soldiers, a Dagestani, an Azerbaijani and an Adyghe, said that “this is not our war” and tried to write a report that they did not want to serve anymore. Lieutenant Colonel Andrei Lapin, when he learned this through the company commander, gathered everyone and began to say that “this is a holy war,” says the narrator, whose name is not called for his safety.

According to the interlocutor, hearing about the "holy war" Muslims were indignant, since this concept "means a war of Muslims with infidels." Then Lapin called Allah a coward. This was the main reason for the further conflict, the narrator says, many were taken aback when they heard such a statement from the lieutenant colonel.

Within an hour and a half, everyone was sent to the shooting range, three natives of Tajikistan deployed their machine guns and shot Lapin, who died on the spot. They then opened fire indiscriminately. According to the narrator, he saw 30 dead, including Lapin. Two shooters were also killed, the third managed to escape. The military man also calls their names - Bikzot, Anush, and junior sergeant Ami. The last one managed to escape.

The military also notes that those who opened fire were ardent supporters of their faith and repeatedly cursed with the command for not being allowed to pray on time and for not being allocated a prayer room.


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1 posted on 10/16/2022 3:07:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

Tough luck for the all the mobiks involved in this incident.


2 posted on 10/16/2022 3:08:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

Muslims killing their Russian allies so Ukrainians don’t have to.

Allah be praised! Lol!!


3 posted on 10/16/2022 3:14:49 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks God nothing like that EVER happened in America!!!!

>> “Terrorist Nidal Hassan who killed 13 at Fort Hood congratulates Taliban from death row” <<

https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/terrorist-nidal-hassan-who-killed-13-at-fort-hood-congratulates-taliban-from-death-row/

The terrorist Army major who murdered 13 colleagues and injured more than 30 others in a 2009 shooting rampage at Fort Hood cheered the Taliban in a triumphant victory message from death row.

“We Have Won!!!” Nidal Hasan wrote in a missive he asked his lawyer to pass along to the Taliban’s leadership, according to Fox News, which obtained a copy.

“All-Praises be to All-Mighty Allah! Congratulations on your victory over those who hate for the Laws of All-Mighty God to be supreme on the land,” the former Army psychiatrist wrote in the letter that he told his lawyer to forward to Afghanistan’s new rulers.

“I pray to Allah that He helps you implement Shariah Law fully, correctly, and fairly,” Hasan wrote, referring to the Islamic law the Taliban previously used to justify extreme punishments and severe restrictions on women’s rights.

“We must learn from the nations of the past and not let our wretchedness overcome us thus earning His (God’s) wrath,” added Hasan, writing from death row at Fort Leavenworth Prison in Kansas.


4 posted on 10/16/2022 3:15:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Zhang Fei

I knew it. Religion of Pieces.


5 posted on 10/16/2022 3:21:32 PM PDT by moovova
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>> "Muslims killing their Russian allies so Ukrainians don’t have to. Allah be praised! Lol!!" <<

GREAT! So send another $100 to your "ally" Major Hassan on death row. He's running low on halal candy, fruit and snacks. And his prayer rug is a bit threadbare.

"Maj. Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 people in a shooting at a Texas Army base, told his lawyer to send a letter to the Taliban congratulating them on taking over Afghanistan."


6 posted on 10/16/2022 3:22:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Then Lapin called Allah a coward.

A veritable masterpiece of diplomacy.

7 posted on 10/16/2022 3:32:03 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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Ukraine ping

moveova: I knew it. Religion of Pieces.

When you get shanghaied to fight a high casualty war against people you don't consider enemies where the odds of death or crippling injuries are high, these things happen. The New York draft riots had Irish draft evaders exchanging fire with Union troops and attacking black residents and abolitionists.


8 posted on 10/16/2022 3:38:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

That’s often what happens when you tell everybody to look as you kick the Hornets Nest. Well, Lapin is one of the french words for Rabbit. Perhaps Lapin didn’t look before he leaped.

Nidal needs to be put down asap. He must be in isolation. I would have thought another prisoner would have “adminstered justice” by now.
Thanks, Obama!


9 posted on 10/16/2022 3:45:01 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Zhang Fei

Well...these things happen.


10 posted on 10/16/2022 3:46:40 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Zhang Fei

In before the:

Glorious Mother Russia is THIS close to eradicating the Soros Globohomo Nazi scum!


11 posted on 10/16/2022 3:50:15 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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To: Travis McGee

Butthurt much?


12 posted on 10/16/2022 3:58:27 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Zhang Fei

Some just can’t take a joke...


13 posted on 10/16/2022 4:02:24 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Zhang Fei

Can’t say I blame them.

It would also probably be wise for any Chinese in the Ukraine, answering the “come home” call from King Xi, to NOT travel THRU Russia. They could wind up back in the Ukraine...wearing a Russian uniform and carrying an AK. LOL


14 posted on 10/16/2022 4:20:54 PM PDT by moovova
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"The New York draft riots had Irish draft evaders exchanging fire with Union troops and attacking black residents and abolitionists."

And like the Irish, Russians know that more booze is the solution. ;)

15 posted on 10/16/2022 4:24:34 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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[It would also probably be wise for any Chinese in the Ukraine, answering the “come home” call from King Xi, to NOT travel THRU Russia. They could wind up back in the Ukraine...wearing a Russian uniform and carrying an AK. LOL]


Maybe Xi’s acolytes have awakened to the threat of Chinese dissidents gaining useful military training and combat experience in a foreign conflict.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/chinese-man-once-dubbed-chinas-200011873.html

The biggest elements are probably learning to finance, equip, train and lead an armed force. All of these factors are in play in some fashion in Ukraine, given the nation’s relatively low income per capita and skimpy, poverty-driven defense budget. Over a century ago, many of the men who led the efforts against China’s last titular emperor received their training in Japanese military academies.

Ukraine is risky as a training venue, but learning to fight there is probably way more useful to any would-be rebel than a formal stint at Sandhurst or West Point would be. Many of Ukraine’s war leaders, including the recently-departed leader of the Carpathian Sich, interact very closely with the rank and file, with funds and equipment not forthcoming from governmental sources being acquired through appeals for private contributions.

In other words, not materially different from what George Washington did to organize the American Revolution. It’s not rocket science, but does require a good deal of ingenuity, creativity and sheer gut-it-out tenacity. Easy to parrot for a test at some academy, but not so easy to implement in the field.


16 posted on 10/16/2022 4:38:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Travis McGee

Hassan carried out an unprovoked premeditated attack on a random target chosen to maximize casualties. I was on Fort Hood and was about 10 blocks away. Two soldiers from my battalion were there, though fortunately neither was killed or wounded.

From the limited and potentially inaccurate information available, these men were conscripted into someone else’s war, heard their religion insulted, then the Russians then thoughtfully provided them weapons and ammo with which to wreak vengeance.

The comparisons are superficial at best.


17 posted on 10/16/2022 5:22:55 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Step 1: insult the religion of already disgruntled soldiers.

step 2: Take them to a range an issue them weapons and ammo.

Step 3: Profit!


18 posted on 10/16/2022 5:25:08 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: Zhang Fei

Diversity works for Russia.


19 posted on 10/16/2022 5:37:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Lapin is/was the son of Colonel General Aleksandr Lapin, who runs the entire war effort in the North East front. LTCOL Lapin is the Commander of the 1st Guards Tank Regiment, and suffered major defeats in the battles for Chernahiv (on the way to Kyiv) and Kupyansk/Lyman. At this point I question the validity of reports he was killed. If he was it’s pretty significant politically, if not militarily.


20 posted on 10/16/2022 5:41:07 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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