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12,000 Russian Troops Were Supposed To Defend Kaliningrad. Then They Went To Ukraine To Die
Forbes ^ | 10/29/22 | David Axe

Posted on 10/29/2022 6:49:28 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

Six years ago, the Russian navy formed a new army corps whose job it would be to defend Kaliningrad, Russia’s geographically separate outpost on the Baltic Sea between Poland and Lithuania.

This year, when the war in Ukraine began to go badly for Russia, the Kremlin yanked the 11th Army Corps from Kaliningrad and sent it into Ukraine. Where the Ukrainian army quickly destroyed it.

The formation, deployment and destruction of the 11th Army Corps tell a story that’s bigger than the tragic tale of Russia’s war in Ukraine. The corps, sandwiched between two NATO countries along a strategic sea, was supposed to give Russian forces an advantage in a global war.

Instead, it became cannon fodder for a Ukrainian army that, on paper, was weaker than the Russian army was. Now Kaliningrad is all but defenseless, and the threat the oblast’s troops once posed to NATO … has evaporated.

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1 posted on 10/29/2022 6:49:28 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5pT4pViJL4


2 posted on 10/29/2022 6:55:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Kalingrad should be part of Poland


3 posted on 10/29/2022 7:01:08 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Number of troops the United States and Europe is willing to commit for your great and heroic cause: 0.


4 posted on 10/29/2022 7:01:32 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: BigEdLB

lol. based on what right? Given that such statements are now semi-official, it is doubtful that Poland needs to stay Poland.


5 posted on 10/29/2022 7:07:53 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: BigEdLB

Not really. It was never part of Poland.


6 posted on 10/29/2022 7:09:34 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Forbes is a Chicom mouthpiece owned by a Chicom company. They would love to drag the US and NATO into a worthless war.


7 posted on 10/29/2022 7:10:14 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: BigEdLB
Kalingrad should be part of Poland

Kaliningrad was actually part of German Prussia. It was some of the territory Germany lost in Prussia and Silesia at the conclusion of World War 2.

8 posted on 10/29/2022 7:10:25 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: BigEdLB
Not really. It was never part of Poland. Give it back to the Teutonic Knights.
9 posted on 10/29/2022 7:12:08 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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To: Alter Kaker

How many millions of Ukrainians have fled the country?
How many residential units in Ukraine are now rubble?
How many Ukrainians have died in this war?


10 posted on 10/29/2022 7:13:02 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: Alter Kaker

Thank you for posting this article. There i so much information, I was unaware of the formation, deployment and destruction of the 11th Army Corps.


11 posted on 10/29/2022 7:13:21 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: NorseViking

Technically it should be German, being that it is ancient Prussian land, but there are no Germans there anymore.

Poland is still owed enormous reparations by both Germany and Russia, so Kaliningrad going to Poland would be at least a down payment on justice.


12 posted on 10/29/2022 7:15:47 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: NorseViking

So how many ground fighting troops are in Kaliningrad?


13 posted on 10/29/2022 7:18:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Destroyer Sailor

The Teutonic knights turned into the Prussian aristocracy. Which became part of the basis for the Hohenzollern monarchy (aka “Prussia”, which mostly wasnt Prussian). Which turned into the German Empire, and then Germany, and then whatever the WW2 Allies let it be.

There is still a Teutonic order -
https://www.deutscher-orden.at/site/lang/en


14 posted on 10/29/2022 7:22:38 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: NorseViking
David Axe is a clown.

https://freerepublic.com/tag/davidaxe/index

15 posted on 10/29/2022 7:26:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: buwaya

Germanic Teutons adopted the name of the Baltic Prussians they conquered.


16 posted on 10/29/2022 7:30:56 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Destroyer Sailor

“Not really. It was never part of Poland.”

In the 15th century it was. Like other Prussian territories it should have gone to Poland. Giving it to the USSR just means another inevitable Danzig/East Prussia/Polish Corridor situation would be created (no irony that was also part of the old Prussian/Pomeranian state as well!).


17 posted on 10/29/2022 7:35:13 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Destroyer Sailor

“It was never part of Poland.”

It was in the 15th century.

If the Teutonic Knights stayed in control of the region WWI and WWII would never have happened.


18 posted on 10/29/2022 7:37:09 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: buwaya

“Technically it should be German, being that it is ancient Prussian land, but there are no Germans there anymore.”

Technically it should be Prussian - but there is no Prussia. And the Prussians disappeared - I mean the real Prussians - disappeared 400 years before Prussia did. They were Balts, not Germans.


19 posted on 10/29/2022 7:40:15 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Another steaming pile of horse manure.

The Russians are doing so poorly that have annexed 40,000 square miles of land that is now and will remain part of the Russian Federation. Ukraine has no air defense whatsoever and the power grid is being steadily degraded right before winter.

The Ukrainians and Biden regime lie and neocons repeat the lies.

20 posted on 10/29/2022 7:43:31 PM PDT by Kazan
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