Only cha.ce would be legal judgements against Russia funded by Russian money in European banks.
There will never be reparations.
And Russia will never leave Donbas or Crimea.
Build a solution/end over those facts.
Recently at another post someone suggested Putin cannot end this war by simply pulling out for fear of conquest. Since my sense of US and Europe is we are very unlikely to just move or help Ukraine move this war into Russia it is time to think about negotiations if Russia did decide to withdraw. Here is the comment I wrote:
If Putin or his successor were to withdraw completely from all Ukraine including Crimea, I doubt there would be any rush to enter pre 2014 Russian territory by Ukraine and allies. There would be a lot of negotiating to be done.
*For centuries Russia has been seeking a warm weather port with multiple wars and subversion. Part of a negotiated end of this war might be to offer Russia use of part of Sevastapol for strictly COMMERCIAL shipping, with appropriate inspections to insure that no weapons are imported or exported over the Kerch Bridge, or shipped out or allowed to enter the permitted port facilities.
* The west is holding a significant amount of Russian funds. Negotiation will definitely be required to determine how much of these funds should be returned to Russia and the oligarchs, and how much used for repairs and economic recovery of Ukraine.
* Much land in Crimea and probably elsewhere was taken over by Russians, including FSB personnel, some possibly bought (under pressure) from the original residents. A lot of this kind of issue may need to be litigated and subject to various forms of negotiated settlement.
* The applied sanctions against Russia and its oligarchs will need to be canceled or reduced, or kept, and will be an important point for negotiations.
* Many “war crimes” appear to have occurred. These will need to be investigated, litigated, and punished or resolved. If Russia withdraws, and is then NOT entered and conquered, there will be a lot of wiggle room for deciding who does what and how much to whom.
These are just some of the key issues that might be involved after voluntary withdrawal by Russia. Consider of course, how much more severe the consequences of such issues might be if Russia is forced out in violent retreat, and even has territory conquered as a result. This would be a good time for Russia to declair a voluntary retreat and ask for UN
representative supervision of that retreat to stop further theft of Ukraine resources, including civil equipment like fire engines and ambulances, and personal equipment like tractors and washing machines.
Anyone else have some ideas to share on Russian withdrawal and subsequent negotiation?
This is where I posted my original comment: Titled “‘Losing is not an option’: Putin is ‘desperate’ to avoid defeat in Ukraine as anxiety rises in Moscow”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4113089/posts?page=46#46
Recently at another post someone suggested Putin cannot end this war by simply pulling out for fear of conquest. Since my sense of US and Europe is we are very unlikely to just move or help Ukraine move this war into Russia it is time to think about negotiations if Russia did decide to withdraw. Here is the comment I wrote:
If Putin or his successor were to withdraw completely from all Ukraine including Crimea, I doubt there would be any rush to enter pre 2014 Russian territory by Ukraine and allies. There would be a lot of negotiating to be done.
*For centuries Russia has been seeking a warm weather port with multiple wars and subversion. Part of a negotiated end of this war might be to offer Russia use of part of Sevastapol for strictly COMMERCIAL shipping, with appropriate inspections to insure that no weapons are imported or exported over the Kerch Bridge, or shipped out or allowed to enter the permitted port facilities.
* The west is holding a significant amount of Russian funds. Negotiation will definitely be required to determine how much of these funds should be returned to Russia and the oligarchs, and how much used for repairs and economic recovery of Ukraine.
* Much land in Crimea and probably elsewhere was taken over by Russians, including FSB personnel, some possibly bought (under pressure) from the original residents. A lot of this kind of issue may need to be litigated and subject to various forms of negotiated settlement.
* The applied sanctions against Russia and its oligarchs will need to be canceled or reduced, or kept, and will be an important point for negotiations.
* Many “war crimes” appear to have occurred. These will need to be investigated, litigated, and punished or resolved. If Russia withdraws, and is then NOT entered and conquered, there will be a lot of wiggle room for deciding who does what and how much to whom.
These are just some of the key issues that might be involved after voluntary withdrawal by Russia. Consider of course, how much more severe the consequences of such issues might be if Russia is forced out in violent retreat, and even has territory conquered as a result. This would be a good time for Russia to declair a voluntary retreat and ask for UN
representative supervision of that retreat to stop further theft of Ukraine resources, including civil equipment like fire engines and ambulances, and personal equipment like tractors and washing machines.
Anyone else have some ideas to share on Russian withdrawal and subsequent negotiation?
This is where I posted my original comment: Titled “‘Losing is not an option’: Putin is ‘desperate’ to avoid defeat in Ukraine as anxiety rises in Moscow”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4113089/posts?page=46#46