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Electric vehicles futile as a solution to ‘climate crisis’: Transitioning to a “net-zero” all-electric economy by 2050 is economically, physically, and politically impossible
American Thinker ^ | 12/09/2022 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 12/09/2022 6:54:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The Department of Energy’s Argonne National Laboratory recently released a study titled, “Assessment of Light-Duty Plug-in Electric Vehicles in the United States, 2010 – 2021,” which shows that in 2021, privately-owned plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) and electric vehicles (EVs) “saved about 690 million gallons of gasoline.”

However, that is a huge exaggeration because fossil fuels provide 61 percent of the electricity in the United States. This means we have to include the inefficiency of burning coal or natural gas to make electricity (around 45 percent), transmission losses (about 5 percent), and losses in the inverter to charge the battery (another 5 percent).

Considering those losses, less than 33 percent of that apparent savings is a real reduction in fossil fuel use, the equivalent of roughly 230 million gallons of gasoline.

The Argonne study also says that from 2010 to 2021, EVs saved 2.1 billion gallons of gas. So, using the guideline of 61 percent from above, let’s be generous and say that over 11 years, EVs have saved about a third of that, the equivalent of about 750 million gallons of gasoline.

Although 750 million gallons of gasoline sounds like a huge amount, when you put it into perspective of the larger picture of gasoline use, that savings is actually a drop in the bucket.

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), “In 2021, about 134.83 billion gallons (or about 3.21 billion barrels) of finished motor gasoline were consumed in the United States, an average of about 369 million gallons per day (or about 8.80 million barrels per day).”

Using simple arithmetic, dividing those 750 million gallons of gasoline saved from 2010 to 2021 according to the Argonne Lab study, by the daily U.S. consumption of gasoline, we get: 750/369 = 2.03 days.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; evs; globalwarminghoax; greenenergy; gwh; hoax; netzero
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Let that sink in. Just two days of U.S gasoline consumption can be attributed to EVs over 11 years.

Direct taxpayer subsidies for EVs have cost $10 billion to date. The U.S. government also just approved spending an additional $7.5 billion on EV charging stations.

The subsidy math shows: $10 billion + $7.5 billion = $17.5 billion. Divide that into the 750 million gallons (.750 billion gallons - BG) reportedly saved based on the Argonne Lab study and we get .750 BG/$17.5 billion = $23.3 dollars per gallon.

The verdict is: thanks to government EV subsidies, we’re spending $23 for each gallon of gasoline saved.

Who knew government could finagle such a great deal?

1 posted on 12/09/2022 6:54:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

God’s Laws of Thermodynamics will not be repealed.................


2 posted on 12/09/2022 6:56:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “solutions” are impossible in addition to the fact that the “problem” DOES NOT EXIST!


3 posted on 12/09/2022 6:58:26 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m in electrical distribution.
I have work until far beyond my death.(40’s)
Aside from the staggering amount of work electrically,
how many Americans live in apartments or are street side parking?
Where are they all plugging in?

I would live in the woods and forage/hunt before I move into a city and ride public transportation with DeQuarious Jenkins et al…


4 posted on 12/09/2022 7:03:27 AM PST by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind

But you don’t have to actually do it, talking about it gets you elected.


5 posted on 12/09/2022 7:05:23 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (When Ashli Babbitt’s video-taped murderer Michael Byrd is indicted, I’ll start paying attention.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"... “net-zero” ... “is impossible ...”

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Nonsense.

All that is needed is the extermination of the human race.
And the subhuman demonic elitist scum are working double-overtime on that one...
As anyone can easily see.

6 posted on 12/09/2022 7:05:26 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: G Larry

the problem and solution

increases govt control

so it is all good


7 posted on 12/09/2022 7:05:51 AM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind

climate control

pretend to control the climate in order to control you


8 posted on 12/09/2022 7:06:34 AM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rat Party Headquarters has vowed to shut down every last coal fired,gas fired,oil fired and nuclear plant in the country. So where ill the power come from when EVs are 10%...33%...75% of the private passenger cars (and long haul trucks) on the road. And for that matter where will the lithium come from?
9 posted on 12/09/2022 7:09:52 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: G Larry

it depends on how you define ‘the problem’. For democrats ‘the problem’ is the supremacy of the american socio-economic model. The free market is the most powerful force for the empowerment of the individual that ever existed in history. The democrats have sold their souls to destroy it. The question of why is a whole another topic. But the solution to the democrats problem is the ‘all electric economy’. That will destroy and collapse the infrastructure for success so it can be replaced. It will be replaced by government controlled rationing of goods and services under cover of ‘climate crisis’. It’s the old joke... What did democrats use before candles? Electricity.

So for democrats, the all electric, net zero, climate crisis economy is a great success. It cannot be installed quickly enough.


10 posted on 12/09/2022 7:12:58 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Transitioning to a “net-zero” all-electric economy by 2050 is economically, physically, and politically impossible” That doesn’t mean THEY won’t do it. Since it appears not a lot of folks WANT evs, the (b)administration is helping all the major auto companies shift to all evs making it impossible to choose a new ICE vehicle in the future. And, recently there was a piece (maybe on here) how dodge is presenting the new ev charger with a simulated exhuast system to give you the feel of an ICE vehicle. Fidiots. Just ain’t the same as a 3/4 cam ICE lopping along at idle through open headers. I believe that’s called visceral.


11 posted on 12/09/2022 7:13:38 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: SeekAndFind

Surprisingly, the latest complete carbon footprint calculations show EV’s with a slightly larger carbon footprint than ICE vehicles. But - hybrids had a total footprint about 15% less than either.

This calculation used extended range EV’s because they have more carbon intensive Lithium batteries. Short range EV’s and electric golf carts have a smaller footprint.


12 posted on 12/09/2022 7:25:41 AM PST by MMusson
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To: G Larry

Doesn’t matter how irrational the meme is. The objective is the destruction of Western Civilization, by any means necessary.


13 posted on 12/09/2022 7:25:47 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (CNN)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just another bunch of Psychopaths trying to control the world , WWI and WWII were not enough


14 posted on 12/09/2022 7:27:05 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

yep


15 posted on 12/09/2022 7:27:16 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s all about the DemonRat SLUSH FUNDS.


16 posted on 12/09/2022 7:44:31 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

1.7% of vehicles on the road today are hybrid but, they came up some nonsense number that saved somewhere around 1/4 the gasoline consumed?

That is just complete nonsense

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-electric-cars-in-united-states/


17 posted on 12/09/2022 7:57:12 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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18 posted on 12/09/2022 7:59:05 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I tell this to fellow EV owners all the time. There are many reasons a person might want an EV, even in a free market with no government compulsion on car production and car purchases. But talking like EV’s save the environment is a bunch of hogwash.


19 posted on 12/09/2022 8:03:19 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

So, can you share with us your reasons for owning an EV?


20 posted on 12/09/2022 8:06:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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