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The grim state of Russia's war effort is finally leaking into Russian media and social media
MSN ^ | 12-15 | Tom Rogan

Posted on 12/15/2022 1:13:34 PM PST by dennisw

Russia is increasingly concerned about the war in Ukraine, and rightly so. Ukrainian forces have the initiative in battlefield momentum, morale, equipment, and training. So serious are Russia's concerns that the Kremlin has now grudgingly accepted that the reality cannot be completely hidden from domestic social media and news reporting.

Leshkov said he volunteered before being conscripted. But when it came to his military training, Leshkov said, "I and most of the servicemen were not satisfied with its quality. ... In our free time, we had to prepare ourselves, beg the officers to conduct additional classes with us." Leshkov added that he was given the wrong size of equipment. When none of these issues were resolved, Leshkov confronted officers, including the lieutenant colonel he struck.

This incident reflects a broader crisis of Russian regular and conscript forces being given grossly inadequate training and equipment before being sent to Ukraine. This is an issue that the coming winter will exacerbate. But the fact that a pro-Putin newspaper would publish Leshkov's complaints so plainly shows just how concerned Russians are becoming about the state of the war.

The next evidence of Russian concern comes via a statement from Wagner Group chief and former street criminal-turned-chef Evgeny Prigozhin. Wagner serves as a mercenary force and as a semi-deniable unit for Russia's GRU military intelligence service. Prigozhin, who reports suggest has criticized the war effort to Putin, observed that Ukraine "is putting up resistance on a level that may not have been seen in the history of the last century." Again, this honesty reflects the significant challenges facing Russian forces in Ukraine. Prigozhin knows that further losses are coming.

Finally, there was the increasingly erratic behavior of Vladimir Putin's Chechen strongman Ramzan Kadyrov.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 12/15/2022 1:13:34 PM PST by dennisw
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2 posted on 12/15/2022 1:14:56 PM PST by cranked
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3 posted on 12/15/2022 1:15:12 PM PST by PGR88
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Sure Dennisw. You bet.

I think that they will run out of Ukrainians before Russia runs out of Russians.


4 posted on 12/15/2022 1:15:18 PM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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5 posted on 12/15/2022 1:16:43 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked
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6 posted on 12/15/2022 1:20:08 PM PST by PGR88
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To: WMarshal

“I think that they will run out of Ukrainians before Russia runs out of Russians.”

Bad Vlad is running out of Russians foolish enough to accept being dragooned to Vlad’s Ukraine war. Now Putin winks his eye as he empties out Russian prisons for the Wagner group to recruit from.


7 posted on 12/15/2022 1:20:20 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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8 posted on 12/15/2022 1:22:41 PM PST by cranked
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Putin said before he invaded Ukraine that he couldn’t win a war with NATO.

Putin should admit that due to all the weapons flooding into Ukraine from NATO countries and others that the human cost would be too high to continue this war.

And then he should withdraw from all Ukrainian territory including Crimea.

That’s probably the most graceful exit he can make at this point.


9 posted on 12/15/2022 1:22:47 PM PST by DannyTN
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That’s my opinion and it ought to be Putin’s.


10 posted on 12/15/2022 1:23:13 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: dennisw

Once again the Russians are going to collapse.


11 posted on 12/15/2022 1:23:50 PM PST by glorgau
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You get what you vote for.

Oh, wait...

I forget. No real voting in Russia. Perhaps they’ll correct that once Putin is gotten rid of.


12 posted on 12/15/2022 1:23:51 PM PST by adorno
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Let me know when NATO can beat itself out of wet paper bag, maybe then I will start worrying.

Till the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine rolls on with the added bonus of demilitarizing the WEST/UK/US/NATO......


13 posted on 12/15/2022 1:24:38 PM PST by cranked
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You seem to forget that the Ukraine has already gone through numerous mobilizations and is drafting boys and men age 16 to 60. The Ukrainians already have 50K women in frontline combat roles. The Ukrainians cannot afford the losses they are taking much longer.

When are you going to volunteer to go over there to fill the gaps in the line chest-thumping, armchair warrior?


14 posted on 12/15/2022 1:26:21 PM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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putin lies all the time anyway.

He can declare Ukraine de-Nazified and have a victory parade in Moscow.

May it be so!


15 posted on 12/15/2022 1:28:39 PM PST by Sunsong
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“I forget. No real voting in Russia.”

Coming from another clueless peddler.

Ukraine has banned a 1000 year old religion.
Ukraine has banned all opposition parties.
Ukraine targets all opposition media foreign and domestic.
Ukraine has banned all opposition media.

I could go on.

There is no democracy in Ukraine, at all, other than in your la-la-land fantasy world.


16 posted on 12/15/2022 1:30:08 PM PST by cranked
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Sunsong lies all the time.

Go figure.


17 posted on 12/15/2022 1:31:11 PM PST by cranked
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Therefore, it is good that Russians put old people and children into the freezing weather? Yeah, that’s civilized.

Why you are allowed to post on an American forum is beyond me.


18 posted on 12/15/2022 1:32:56 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: dennisw

Putin doesn’t have to answer to voters so he really can stay in as long as he wants. The only thing that matters is what he considers a victory.


19 posted on 12/15/2022 1:34:29 PM PST by GulliverSwift
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“The grim state of Ukraine’s war effort is finally leaking into the US/UK/EU/Western/NATO media and social media”

Fixed/Corrected.
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“The personnel center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced in top secret the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers who were declared missing - 35,382 people. These are military personnel whose bodies were left on the battlefield - they were not taken home and were not buried...And their families will not receive compensation because they are “missing.””
https://twitter.com/ARTESOSCURASBOO/status/1603173532191670281
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⚡️ #Ukraine will be able to reach the borders on February 23 IF it has 300 tanks, about 700 infantry fighting vehicles and half a thousand howitzers, - Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny”
https://twitter.com/peterniers544/status/1603411662312202242

IF ONLY YOU HAD 300 TANKS AND 700 IFVs and HALF A THOUSAND HOWTIZERS!!!!

Oh wait, its all virtually been destroyed already....!


20 posted on 12/15/2022 1:35:37 PM PST by cranked
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