Posted on 01/06/2023 4:29:15 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
A campaign launched by two Finnish politicians aims to 'embarrass' Germany into providing Leopard tanks for Ukraine.
Until now, no Western country has given main battle tanks to help the Ukrainian military -- although France announced this week that so-called light tanks, the AMX-10 RC armoured fighting vehicles, will be supplied for the first time.
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The last time the Germans sent tanks to Ukraine it didn’t work out so well for them.........
I think he gave speeches from his balcony.
Ergo these two Finnish politicians declare "our own interests and our values" are in the Ukraine in the moment. all the while Finland shares a very long and indefensible border with Russia.
It is most interesting to see many in the European Left and Green factions being so prominent in what remains a war between two non-NATO nations. This and other stories demonstrate that, in fact, this has become a war between NATO and Russia, albeit without requiring Finnish and German troops and more, as yet, to openly join the fight in Ukraine.
It is also interesting to observe that the European Left and Green parties alongside Biden and Trudeau are so involved, given that NATO continues to state it is not actually, really, no not really involved. It is for this, whether one picks a side or not, that the geopolitical realignments seem to be happening with increased speed.
If the petrodollar slips away and SWIFT is effectively sidestepped, the "liberal world order" as declared by Biden as his to lead, will teeter. So have said that the Ukraine/Russia was is "existential" for Russia. I agree. But it is now shown as "existential" for the West and its liberals, Left and Green politicians as well. Nothing is certain, and that seems certain.
Same opponent though.
Mr Hilter and Bimler for the Bolshilist party for the Minehead by-election!
I think people have been asking the wrong question.
They wonder why the Germans won’t “Free the Leopards”.
Yes, they have released 2 leopard I tanks, to my knowledge, to Ukraine.
The real question isn’t why they won’t “Free” the Leopards. The REAL question is after the policies of the last German Government..DO THEY HAVE ANY WORKING LEOPARDS TO FREE!
Most of the Leopard II tanks have been built or sold for export. Leopard I have no spare parts or people to fix them into working order. I suspect that the Germans are really showing that they have a pair of 3’s in their war poker hand.
American arm twisting at it’s finest. Two Finn’s bought by the CIA. Two Finn’s seeking to disarm Germany.
The Ukraine will have NATO stripped of its fighting capabilities. America is buying them off to arm Ukraine.
Should, and will, Ukraine fall by end of Summer Russia will be sitting in the position of having to occupy Kiev simply to instrangance. The road to Berlin will once again be open to Red Armies which will number nearly two million men.
As America plays with fire, trying to encroach and eventually make a mad Rush to Moscow from Ukrainian soil, the Russians are creating new armies. They training two 200,000 combined arms formations. These are new, they take time, NCOs and officers. Russia does not need these two new combat formations or armies to finish off Ukraine.
The leopards will not save Ukraine, but they will once destroyed on the fields of battle no longer be in Germnay, or the French type Bradley’s in France, to defend Europe.
NATO in my estimation is being destroyed by the NWO and WEF and will be in disaray by the end of next summer.
America spent from 2014-2022 building fortifications, NATO staffed combined command centers, and training up a massive Ukrainian Army from almost scratch. We did it with a mix of NATO and Soviet era equipment. We did it on a national infrastructure modeled on the Russian electric grid, communications, air defense, etc. There are no replacement train engines for the Russian designed, and the deisels are in near zero supply now; the electric grid has been degraded ONLY since October, and today is nearly wrecked. America did not envision a crumbling railway or electric. Both were critical errors looking back in the midst of a war of changing fortunes.
The S300s are nearly depleated or will be by the time the Russians begin to use their airforce on Ukraine. Air power will change much on the front lines. Missiles and artillery will do the damage in the rear areas of Ukraine.
In three to four months, Russia will breach the Donbas and Luskance (sp) areas to the point that when they send the cuerrently massing armies into Ukraine there will be little resistance. At what point will Russia be forced to stop once this starts? The queer little Z-man installed after the 2014 coup placeholder will not negotiate... maybe Russia stops on the boarders of Poland the rest of the former USSR.
And if those former allies throw in with Ukraine, maybe they too will find themselves facing a PO’d Bear.
Then of course, American’s know their President Joe “Nuke” Biden is a “Uke” lover and he is so old he will probably die before the radiation from his limited envisioned Nuclear war to destroy Russia hits him. And the NWO gets rid of all those pesky people in the process.
Germany has fewer than 200 operational MBTs.
Sending those to Ukraine seems like a bad idea. Once they cross the border, they are never coming back.
The French AMC-10 RC is a feisty light tank or infantry fighting vehicle depending on your choice of names. BTR and BMP type vehicles are easy prey.
Not armored for toe to toe shootout against main battle tanks but can ring their bell good at longer range and disable or destroy at shorter range. Take a shot or two then run run run.
Fast and maneuverable. Uses standard 105mm NATO ammo. HEAT, fragmentation and sabot. Stabilized gun, modern fire control.
At just over 42 tons it may be the only Western tank that can operate in Ukraine, whose infrastructure can only support 44 ton vehicles.
>>The last time the Germans sent tanks to Ukraine it didn’t work out so well for them.........<<
Many Ukrainians welcomed the Wehrmacht as a release from Soviet-Russia control.
There’s nothing funny about Germans and Ukrainians working together: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
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