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Flights across U.S. affected after FAA experiences computer outage
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Posted on 01/11/2023 3:23:03 AM PST by janetjanet998

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To: NautiNurse

“With an FAA outage, are the airlines obligated to compensate passengers, or are the rest of us poor tax-paying schmucks on the hook?”

Yes.

Air travel has not only become highly uncertain between points, it may be downright dangerous in some circumstances.

If only there were some way to travel about reliably without having to go through hoops to even get on the means of transportation, but that there could also be some kind of certainty of arrival at destination on a known schedule....


21 posted on 01/11/2023 4:24:15 AM PST by alloysteel (People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do - Isaac Asimov)
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To: All

**************this is Jan 2 2023

U.S. FAA says it fixed computer issue that delayed Florida flights

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-faa-slows-air-traffic-over-florida-due-computer-problem-2023-01-02/

more....

FAA: Computer issue that delayed Florida flights has been ...https://www.fox35orlando.com › news › flights-to-florida...
Jan 2, 2023 — ORLANDO, Fla. - The Federal Aviation Administration said a computer issue with one of its air traffic systems – which prompted flight delays ...

U.S. FAA says it fixed computer issue that ... - Yahoo Newshttps://www.yahoo.com › entertainment › u-faa-slows-a...
Jan 2, 2023 — “The computer issue has been resolved. The FAA is working toward safely returning to a normal traffic rate in the Florida airspace,” the ...

Delays increase at Florida airports after computer issue ...https://www.abcactionnews.com › news › state › delays-...
Jan 2, 2023 — The FAA issued a ground stop advisory to Florida airports after an air traffic computer issue caused flights to be delayed Monday afternoon.
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22 posted on 01/11/2023 4:24:24 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Ec 1:2 The rest is, Vanity of vanities..vanity of vanities!All is vanity.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

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UPDATE - FAA has ordered airlines to pause all domestic departures until 9 a.m. Eastern Time.
7:22 AM · Jan 11, 2023


23 posted on 01/11/2023 4:26:18 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

All outbound domestic flights are grounded until 0900.


24 posted on 01/11/2023 4:27:10 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse

I have a very bad feeling about this.


25 posted on 01/11/2023 4:31:51 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

Update 3: The FAA is still working to fully restore the Notice to Air Missions system following an outage.

The FAA has ordered airlines to pause all domestic departures until 9 a.m. Eastern Time to allow the agency to validate the integrity of flight and safety information.

https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1613148579270459393


26 posted on 01/11/2023 4:35:36 AM PST by Texan4Life
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To: janetjanet998

I know this is DM, but I find it interesting because well. I just do in light of things I have been reading lately.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11620855/Dirty-bomb-fears-URANIUM-cargo-Heathrow.html


27 posted on 01/11/2023 4:35:36 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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Every flight across US grounded due to computer system glitch

The FAA said it was working to restore its Notice to Air Missions system, which alerts pilots of potential hazards along a flight route. Some 1,230 flights within, into or out of the US have been delayed, according to a flight tracking website, while 108 have been cancelled.

https://news.sky.com/story/all-flights-across-us-grounded-due-to-faa-computer-system-glitch-us-media-12784252


28 posted on 01/11/2023 4:39:59 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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To: mewzilla

Could be this happens with some frequency. Normally wouldn’t make the news, except that Pete Butt and his merry henchmen have declared war on the airlines. So, they have fired back by broadcasting the news that it is the almighty federal government at fault this time.


29 posted on 01/11/2023 4:40:39 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: mewzilla

If this goes past 9am it could be worse than we’ve been told.

The other thing I would look out for is follow on events to major systems, for example if the NYSE, NASDAQ or a similar critical system has issues today then we can assume it’s not some random system failure.


30 posted on 01/11/2023 4:43:09 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: NautiNurse

“Is Peter Butt on vacation again?”
Perhaps maternity leave?


31 posted on 01/11/2023 4:45:58 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: srmanuel

All flights by American airlines from Paris have been delayed until further notice, an international airport operator based in the French capital tells
@NBCNews
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32 posted on 01/11/2023 4:48:00 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: mewzilla

Update: This is the first national air travel groundstop since 9-11.


33 posted on 01/11/2023 4:48:54 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: janetjanet998

Hacked by the same people who blew up Nordstream II.


34 posted on 01/11/2023 4:53:11 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Was it hacked...

Or did Deep State pull the plug for sone reason...

Even money, I’d say


35 posted on 01/11/2023 4:55:37 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: NautiNurse

If, for some reason, the powers that be wish to ground aircraft, this is an easy way to do it without revealing the real threat.


36 posted on 01/11/2023 5:00:23 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: odawg

NOTAMS is a warning system tied to FAA computer systems. It states the abnormal status of a component of the National Airspace System (NAS) – not the normal status. So...it isn’t actually a component of real-time ATC.


37 posted on 01/11/2023 5:02:02 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: janetjanet998

This is not totally unexpected, it could be the FAA knows this outage will go on past 9am, we’ll see.

I’m looking at other critical systems not related to the FAA, like the NYSE, NASDAQ or perhaps some banking systems, etc.

If you start to see that, which highly unlikely, but if it were to happen it will indicate something beyond a normal computer outage.


38 posted on 01/11/2023 5:04:18 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: newnhdad

Just hours after the committee to investigate China was established.

Next week it’ll be a full EMP.

They’ll show us.


39 posted on 01/11/2023 5:07:12 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: FarCenter
Initially, this morning's ground stop was discretionary, by airline. Such a decision plays right into Peter Butt's desire to demonize the airlines. Discretionary delays and cancellations place the passenger compensation burden on airlines.

Making the ground stop mandatory acknowledges the FAA's accountability for the program failure, and limits individual airline liability.

I surely hope Southwest is able to quickly recover from this latest nightmare.

40 posted on 01/11/2023 5:10:41 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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