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Not just stoves. New York to ban all gas appliances over the next decade
Hotair ^ | 01/11/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 01/11/2023 9:04:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Yesterday we looked at the federal government’s suggestion that they may either ban all gas stoves in the country or require expensive emission control modifications. This is supposedly being done as a public health measure, but under the covers, it seems like yet another covert attempt to eliminate fossil fuel use in America. That move, if it happens, clearly won’t be enough for the state of New York, where Governor Kathy Hochul will always try to bring her green energy one-upmanship game to the table. During her State of the State speech yesterday, Hochul pledged to not only do away with gas stoves but all natural gas appliances over the next decade. Thankfully, the ban would only apply to new construction projects in the initial phases. (Bloomberg)

Governor Kathy Hochul is proposing to make New York the first state in the US to ban natural gas heating and appliances in new buildings, the latest salvo in an ongoing nationwide fight over the fuel.

Hochul called during her state-of-the-state address Tuesday to ban the use of fossil fuels by 2025 for newly built smaller structures and 2028 for larger ones. New York would also prohibit the sale of any new fossil-fuel heating systems starting in 2030.

As I mentioned above, we’re not just talking about stoves in people’s kitchens and restaurants. This ban would prohibit gas furnaces, water heaters, and emergency generators as well. So if you’re in a building that runs entirely on electric heaters and the power goes out during the winter, well… best of luck.

The fact that the ban would only apply to new construction projects initially means that the situation won’t be quite as bad as those monitoring the energy crisis might fear. (At least initially.) Each new building that goes up will have all electrical appliances, so that will just put more of a strain on the already-struggling electrical grid. Of course, most of that electricity is still produced by fossil fuels, but let’s not quibble over the details and upset Kathy Hochul further.

At the same time, however, Hochul’s green dreams will not produce nearly the impact that she’s suggesting in terms of climate issues. More than half of the buildings in New York use one or more gas-powered appliances. Since they aren’t initially impacted by this, the natural gas pipelines will still be in place and all of those buildings will continue to burn natural gas until the appliances all die a natural death. New York will not be 100% free of fossil fuels by 2030 or really even anywhere close to it, despite the Governor’s lofty promises.

Meanwhile, the pushback against the report claiming that natural gas stoves pose a health hazard continues. Fox Business is reporting that the American Gas Association (AGA) is “clapping back” at these accusations and bringing along the science to back up its claims. They also point to the biased nature of the group sponsoring the controversial report.

“A December 2022 report in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health linking natural gas cooking with asthma is not substantiated by sound science.” the AGA said in a press release Tuesday…

The AGA has previously pushed back against Trumka’s comments, saying that the emissions from cooking with gas are similar to emissions created when cooking with electric stoves and that they plan on submitting evidence to prove it.

“Any discussion or perpetuation of the allegations in this report which is funded by non-governmental organizations to advance their agenda to remove consumer energy choice and the option of natural gas is reckless.” the AGA added.

Yes, it’s easy enough to point to the fact that the AGA has a vested interest in supporting the use of clean, affordable natural gas, so taking a position like this may seem predictable. But as we pointed out here yesterday, they do appear to have science on their side. If there was an identifiable link between natural gas stoves and incidents of childhood asthma or any other respiratory illnesses, don’t you suppose someone would have noticed that over the past half-century or so?

We’ll see what sort of studies the AGA offers up in the next week or so. There should be plenty of time because nobody is talking about instituting such a ban immediately. And even if they tried, the effect on tens of millions of families and businesses, not to mention the economy, would be staggering. I don’t think that anyone, even the Biden administration, is foolish enough to rush such a thing through.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: appliances; energy; gasstoves; heating; hochul; newyork; tyranny
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1 posted on 01/11/2023 9:04:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This means that no politician can speak longer than five minutes , no gaslighting, and you can no longer tell someone, as Biden does, to “Blow it out your ass”!


2 posted on 01/11/2023 9:10:05 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: SeekAndFind

A State which can get very cold in winter time bans the best heating fuel and resorts to heat pumps which do not heat below mid 20 degrees, so then you need electrical strip heaters. Two system to fail, both are very low producers of heat in comparison to gas and they use large amounts of electricity. Great plan.....


3 posted on 01/11/2023 9:11:57 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 01/11/2023 9:14:12 PM PST by dznutz
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To: SeekAndFind

she is banning ALL fossil fuels- even heating oil- and will likely try to ban wood as well i n the future-


5 posted on 01/11/2023 9:30:05 PM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

You mean like the gas fireplace my daughter had installed in lieu of burning wood??


6 posted on 01/11/2023 9:31:21 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Lockbox

not to mentio n the fact that she will likely go after all gas powered tools at a later date too- and note that when the electricity goes out, folks won’t have any heat

She should be sued for trying to endanger people’s lives by passing such asinine laws-


7 posted on 01/11/2023 9:31:36 PM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
This means that no politician can speak longer than five minutes , no gaslighting, and you can no longer tell someone, as Biden does, to “Blow it out your ass”!

2 politicians, could heat every house 🏠 in America, from all the hot air that comes out of their fat mouths.

8 posted on 01/11/2023 9:35:15 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: SeekAndFind

Because if you have to ask “is it bad?”, then it is.


9 posted on 01/11/2023 9:38:30 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope Cuomo puts out a hit on her.


10 posted on 01/11/2023 9:49:42 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a CONSERVATIVE dictator to return it to a Constitutional Republic. )
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To: All

Tyranny sucks.


11 posted on 01/11/2023 9:50:34 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: SeekAndFind

Use the idiot Hochul for fuel. She might not last too long—so then you toss Stacy Abrams on the fire. Bingo! You’re good for the whole winter!


12 posted on 01/11/2023 9:53:20 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: SeekAndFind

The left are stark raving mad.


13 posted on 01/11/2023 10:28:34 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: EinNYC

I have a gas furnace which works perfectly. I also have a gas fire place, which I had installed when the house was built, as a back up for the furnace. During a winter power failure I can keep my house above freezing with the gas fire place alone. If I had no gas I would have to drain the water from my pipes and wait it out. No thanks.


14 posted on 01/11/2023 10:29:03 PM PST by Stevenfo
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To: SeekAndFind

Gas Appliance Police will have a very short lifespan, according to actuaries.


15 posted on 01/11/2023 10:46:26 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: SeekAndFind

“NY to ban all gas appliances”?

Still More #ComDem_Insanity!

Let the insane Lib_Tards freeze.

Their new religion, is a total failure. Totalitarianism always fails. They serve the wrong master.

The collapse of this nonsense is near.


16 posted on 01/11/2023 10:49:15 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: GreyHoundSailor
"Gas Appliance Police will have a very short lifespan, according to actuaries.

Just like many other things in our environment, Gas Appliance Police are also combustible.
17 posted on 01/11/2023 11:24:21 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: Bob434
She should be sued for trying to endanger people’s lives by passing such asinine laws-

Instead, Hochul was just elected this past November to a full four year term after finishing the remainder of Andrew Cuomo's term. Her time in office has been characterized by similar hard left pronouncements in between a full schedule of raking in fistfuls of pay-to-play cash from the likes of Covid testing companies and stadium developers. None of that deterred the voters in New York, especially in NYC but also in every big city across the state, from keeping her and the other top Democrats in office.

18 posted on 01/12/2023 12:28:29 AM PST by Dahoser (I finally figured out what to call him: Fakephonyfraudident Biden.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

I hope you’re correct!


19 posted on 01/12/2023 1:23:53 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo
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To: SeekAndFind

When despots get re-elected they ratchet up their despotism and their subjects wail, but they’re only getting what they asked for.


20 posted on 01/12/2023 1:48:37 AM PST by FrdmLvr
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