My stalker murdered my husband. Here’s how you can protect yourself

Fox News ^ | 01/14/2023 | Nikki Goeser

[VictimsRightsPro2a]

January 2023 marks the nineteenth annual National Stalking Awareness Month. As a victim of a very serious and violent case of stalking, I wanted to share my own experience and bring awareness to what stalking is, how it can lead to extreme violence that can have lifelong devastating effects on victims, and how to protect yourself.

With one in three women, and one in six men potentially being stalked in their lifetime, this an important topic to cover.

If you ever question whether you are being stalked, ask yourself if what is happening is scary/distressing, not the first incident, and targets the same person (you.)

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mosey-13

"She was also known for teaching thousands of women how to shoot and use a gun.[4] She believed women should know how to support and defend themselves as well as they mothered.[4] Much of the paraphenalia related to Annie's life, as well as numerous possessions of hers, are on permanent display at the Garst Museum and the National Annie Oakley Center in Greenville, Ohio.[4] She was inducted into the Trapshooting Hall of Fame, the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame, the National Women's Hall of Fame, the Ohio Women's Hall of Fame, and the New Jersey Hall of Fame.[4]"

She was a victim of William Hearst yellow journalism, which accused her of being a Cocaine addict. It was determined to be an error and some newspapers who relied on the Hearst paper retracted, but she sued Hearst and got slander judgements in 55 cases. (Howdy there Kyle Rittenhouse!)

OK. Annie Oakley slide over.....

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Valpal1 :" Stalking is repetitive unwanted attention."
Stalking takes many forms, it is psychologically obsessive behavior by the perpetrator, or their family who has access to :
A) Emotional - it is a controlling personality which wants to control you
B) Physical - frequently with physical confrontation, perhaps with a camera, or showing up at an activity when you attend meetings, or through their associates who spy on you
C) Electronic - knowing your passwords to email, websites you visit, installing a gps on your auto to know of your movements, cellphone relay for conversations, etc., etc.
D) Unwanted access to your home , office, or vehicle where keys are copied without your knowledge or approval.

On NetFlicks, there is currently a good instructional movie about obsessive stalking with Clint Eastwood :
It's called : "Play Misty for me".
Highly recommended for the psychological drama involved in stalking both from the perps perspective and from the victim's response.

[Clutch Martin]

You should keep track. Seriously.

A very close friend was murdered decades ago by the sublet roomy, rolled him up in a rug and stuck him in a dumpster. An aluminum can collector found them two days later.

Went to court, went to jail, and the victims family, myself and others included keep track of that scumbag.

It was totally unexpected.

The murderer was a practicing architect. It’s not like he was some dirt ball out of nowhere. A letter writing chain was pulled together when parole considerations were announced.

[Valpal1]

All of those things are all forms of “repetitive unwanted attention”.

[DoodleBob]

As usual, thank you for your comprehensive yet concise post.

Where I would debate SLIGHTLY, is the issue of government wading into morality.

Put bluntly, many here are (IMHO, correctly) upset when, say, the CDC has a whole web page dedicated to "teacher resources" for kids who are confused about their sexuality etc. That's a FAMILY matter and not an enumerated power in the Constitution. And it sure as shinola isn't the CDC's job. Parenthetically, the CDC should be abolished as it, too, hasn't any basis in the Federalist Papers etc.

But I suspect a lotta FReepers would stand up and cheer if the BATFE stared sending cash and Eddie Eagle materials to schools for marksmanship clubs.

To be fair, this is a bit like debating when night ends and day begins and visa versa. I don't want the federal govt involved in education (it's not an Article 1, Section 8 enumerated power). But if the President, during his SOTU speech, invokes God, Guns, and Bacon, how would we feel about this period of Dusk?

I haven't the answer. But as usual, you provoke thought and that is the greater element of FR. Thank you.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

I read the article and was surprised that the last one-third was very pro 2A self defense. The author urged all women to be armed with pistols. She is very strong on personal empowerment t and women carrying an equalizer.

The poor woman author witnessed the deranged lunatic murder her husband right in front of her and he will be out of prison in ten years! So, if anybody has a right to write such an article, it’s this woman. Imagine the fear she lives with knowing this animal will be released. He should have been executed.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

I read the article and was surprised that the last one-third was very pro 2A self defense. The author urged all women to be armed with pistols. She is very strong on personal empowerment t and women carrying an equalizer.

The poor woman author witnessed the deranged lunatic murder her husband right in front of her and he will be out of prison in ten years! So, if anybody has a right to write such an article, it’s this woman. Imagine the fear she lives with knowing this animal will be released. He should have been executed.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

But I suspect a lotta FReepers would stand up and cheer if the BATFE stared sending cash and Eddie Eagle materials to schools for marksmanship clubs.

Second Amendment. First part.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"

It used to be required for the Militia (all free males between the ages of 14 and 45) to come out and drill on a monthly basis.

Now there is a certainly a debate to be had about whether it is a place for the Federal government to be involved or if it is a state or even local issue.

And in my perfect world, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is a convenience store so take this for what it is worth.

[Valpal1]

Stalking is a high risk factor for lethality. Nationally, 54% of female homicide victims reported stalking to the police before they were killed by their stalker and 76% of female homicide victims experienced stalking by an intimate partner before they were killed.

Being murdered is a health issue, being a stalker is a mental health issue.

[TalBlack]

Wasn’t commenting on that. That’s what they do to gain a little more control over us. Hard cases make bad law and are good for bullshitting people into cedeing more control to authority . Take “bullying”. It means a far different thing to a kid today than it did in 1963. Almost ANY interaction authority wants to call bullying today is shoved down our throats. If it isn’t so already it soon will be that “stalking” means any un welcome attention. Like “bullying” in the mind of the “victim “.

[Valpal1]

Stalking is a high risk factor for lethality. Nationally, 54% of female homicide victims reported stalking to the police before they were killed by their stalker and 76% of female homicide victims experienced stalking by an intimate partner before they were killed.

Being murdered is a health issue, being a stalker is a mental health issue

[DoodleBob]

And in my perfect world, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is a convenience store so take this for what it is worth.

I like that....I always considered them to be hobbies.

Point taken. Thank you.

[TalBlack]

“Stalking is repetitive unwanted attention.”

Exactly. Or its attention unwanted that verges in to actual violation of a law or right. Then, slowly, using cases like this, it’s whatever anyone wants to say it is. That’s what I was commenting on. See “ bullying”. I’m 64 and have been seeing stories like this in a variety of subjects for about 54 of those years.

[Valpal1]

“cases like this”???

The stalker murdered her husband after months of repetitive unwanted contact!

[moovova]

Finding your kid's pet rabbit's head in a pot of boiling water, on the stove in your kitchen...might be a hint that you're being stalked.

[Houmatt]

Exactly. At the end of the day, the police is not obligated to protect you. When they tell you that you can’t protect yourself, it’s because they want you dead. Period. And they are perfectly welcome to go to hell.

[TalBlack]

The stalker murdered her husband after months of repetitive unwanted contact!

Oh! Golly! Did he! ?!!!! Then!!we! Better! Change! The! Definition! Of! Stalking! And! Get! In! Control! Of! These! Psycho! Bastards! NOW!

I wasn’t commenting on a savage act of murder. I was suggesting, as we have seen in the past many times if we have been paying attention, that a truly hard case is being used to whittle away at our freedom. What is the point of this article if it is not an activist attempt to redefine (down) “stalking”?

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

The point of the article is that the police and the legal system will not protect you so you had better be ready to protect yourself.

Did you read it?

[rlmorel]

I have zero with the sentiments of the author with respect to individual responsibility in being aware of your environment and self defense. None whatsoever. It is advice everyone can subscribe to.

My contention is that this is the domain of the legislatures at the state and federal level to pass laws to criminalize stalking behavior, and the state and federal law enforcement agencies to detect those engaging in illegal behavior, putting them into a judicial system which is ostensibly guided by the rule of law to find guilt or innocence dispense justice as required.

I understand there are many who disagree with my stance, and I take direct issue with the assertion that stalking is a health issue and must be handled by the government.

EVERYTHING under the sun can be a health issue requiring government action. EVERYTHING.

Keep this in mind, when remembering that the Holy Grail of the Left has been, and still is, the total government control of healthcare. That isn’t an error on their part. It is because if you control healthcare, you control people.

And it is that mindset that the government needs to step in for everything that is a threat in some way, shape, or form, that has led us to this untenable state of bloated governance, so bloated it is unmanageable, sucking the very life essence of monetary responsibility out of the government and making it impossible to govern.

Worse than that, it allows the Government to take on a life of its own, which is wholly ungovernable by those who agree to be governed by it.

Some call that headless, unmanageable, unaccountable Government The Deep State.

It boils down to the question: What should a government do for those who agree to be governed by it? Beyond the legislative and legal aspects, I don’t believe the government should have a role in this at all.

But where we are right now, that means they have the full capability to force us to protect us from OURSELVES.

Which leads us down the path we are currently on, which is the assumption that our faceless, unaccountable, unmanageable Government knows what is best for us, will make the risk assessments and decisions on our behalf “for our own good”, as we saw them do in the last two years in the face of a COVID pandemic. (a real, honest, risk assessment, by the way, which was NEVER, EVER done by that unelected or elected body.)

Right or wrong, it should have been. OUR choice to make, not THEIRS.

This aspect is one small piece of it. But as George Washington is reputed to have said often, “Many mickles make a muckle” which translates to “Many small things add up to a large thing”.

This is why, the millions of mickles we put into government functions add up to a massive, unjust, unwise, and ultimately, ungovernable muckles.

And it is not just breaking us fiscally, it is breaking our freedom, as anyone (including me) was put at risk of the ability and freedom to work unless I conform to a mandate handed down from government knows full well.

We have to recalibrate this mind set, or our Republic is doomed.

[rlmorel]

I must tell you, DoodleBob, as I began to read your post and saw you write "...thank you for your comprehensive yet concise post..."

it made me grin because I thought "Oh, no...that is sarcasm (concise...not my forte) and the broadside is coming!" But I see you grasp the point I was trying to make, and even though I see yours (and other's as well) we may disagree at some level, we can still talk about it, which...is what I come here for anyway, so...thank you!