Posted on 01/23/2023 8:22:16 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Ask Catholic Psychiatrist Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons, whose decades of work with priests has shown that the origin of this problem is not at all priestly celibacy and concomitant sexual continence, but rather an horrifically debauched and degraded personal morality arising out of same-sex sexual attraction, concomitant rampant sodomitical sexual behavior, and concomitant darkening of the intellect. These are very difficult to root out if a given individual even in known cases when the priest in question is receiving competent psychiatric treatment. To the the extent they are latent, hidden and therefore partially or wholly unaddressed among thousands of other priests, pastors and religious, which was eventually deduced to be the case by at least twenty years ago, moral chaos ensues and all the negative consequences that flow from that.
I have said from the the day he “retired” that Benedict underestimated how entrenched the homosexual Cabal is within the Catholic Church, and his attempt to rightly do something about it is what lead to his “retirement”.
The laity of the church truly have no idea how badly the church hierarchy has been taken over by the lavender mafia.
Vatican II killed the catholic church. Once they were openly allowed in, they began to trade sexual favors for preferences.. and when one of them molested a child, they had to cover it up to protect them all. Its not a coincidence that the sexual abuse within the church skyrocketed in the 70s. (Yes, it always happened, humans are flawed and failed creatures, but the degree skyrocketed beginning in the 70s) because that is when the openly homosexual priests started to get appointed to parishes (takes 8 years of training to become a priest)... They formed their own little cliques and traded favors and protected each other and moved up the ranks. If one of them abused children, they had to be protected or risk them all being exposed... The calculus changed. A single abusive priest was no longer a single abusive priest, he was a threat to all of them.. so they had to hide and protect them.
Until the laity understand just how corrupted the church has become, and does something about it, the church will continue to decline in the west.
Only hope I see is that other parts of the world refuse to take it any longer, its clear the west will tolerate anything and justify it.
See post 62
People today don’t understand this.
Being a priest through history put a huge target on your back. At one point the church was THE most powerful entity on this planet. Even Kings would not dare cross the church.
Having a wife and family, when you have a target on your back, puts a target on them as well.
Folks today don’t understand this. There are indeed solid reasons for priests not being allowed to marry and forsaking romantic involvements. Did priests have sex? Of course they did, they are humans.. and the church’s historic handling of the children created by such behaviors is far from compassionate at times. However, to say it has no bases or purpose, is false.
I’m not Catholic myself, but I’ve long thought that the media and the homosexual Left were coordinating an attack on the Catholic Church, and that the church was getting an undeserved bad rap. What really convinced me was the occasional discovery of not just an individual homosexual pedophile priest here or there, but organized groups of them who were meeting together in secret. I had also heard many years ago that Catholic seminaries (as well as protestant seminaries) were seeing a sudden surge in applications by applicants who were eventually discovered to be practicing homosexuals.
I think this method of attack is similar to how the “woke” Left has now wormed its way into the management of virtually every company or institution that were long considered American icons, such as Disney, to cite one. Like with what has happened to Disney, the “woke” Left has figured out that if they can gain control of such an institution and then begin to pervert it, no matter how conservatives respond it will result in the destruction of that institution (which is their real goal). If conservatives recoil at the stench of “wokeness”, and begin fighting back and boycotting it, then they may well succeed in destroying that company (or other institution) in the process. If, on the other hand, conservatives just sit back and leave it alone, then the “woke” management will just crank the “wokeness” up to 11, distorting a previous American icon into a perverse, unrecognizable mess, effectively destroying it as well. It’s “they win, we lose” no matter how we respond.
They’re doing the same with the churches, trying to force us into an “if you don’t destroy it, we will” corner from which we can’t win. Even so, I’ll take the route of trying to fight back every time, because at least that offers a possibility of winning, no matter how slim. The key is to not just unleash our unbridled fury on the organization that they are corrupting, but to be strategic about it. It’s like trying to rid a house of termites: You can burn the house down (which will get rid of the house along with the termites), or you can be more surgical and try to just remove the termites while preserving the structure.
I did research this and found nothing. Someone asks you an honest question but your answer is an insult.
For starters, or to start with Luther’s “end”, Luther apparently killed himself.
https://damselofthefaith.wordpress.com/2016/12/07/did-luther-commit-suicide/
And for a compendium of Luther’s obvious insanity and reprobation, which included blasphemy, check out the following:
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/01/26/luther-in-his-own-wordsoct-2017/
Correct, celibacy does not cause homosexuality.
Sorry if what I said gave offense. As you suggest, I may be wrong, and it may be objectively difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to certain historical figures. If left to his own devices, Bergoglio would probably rush to try to somehow canonize Martin Luther as a saint, despite his not being Catholic, and despite the wealth of countervailing information available to diligent researchers.
Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons really is the foremost expert who would testify to this fact. He left no stone unturned informing the Church hierarchy of it and urging them, ultimately unsuccessfully, to take strong, effective action to cut this cancer out if the Church in the U.S. His open letter to U.S. bishops dated 2003 or 2004 layed all of this out.
I believe that your assessment regarding the Catholic Church gay priest situation is exactly what was and is happening to dilute and destroy the clerical structure that Catholics have depended on for guidance and maintaince of our religion for centuries. A friend of the family was searching for a seminary to enter to pursue his ambition of becoming a Catholic priest. He eventually gave up as he became aware of the prevalence of gay individuals in each place he checked out. I think that the church is slowly regaining respect among individuals who want a solid religious foundation of truly dedicated religious souls serving Christ for the benefit of mankind. I do not engage in tit for tat religion discussions on line. I do not care at all for any of it and am quite secure in what I believe. I know that close to fatal damage has been done within the Catholic Church by clergy and others. Our universities and schools have become compromised to fit modernist notions of how everything relating to spiritual pursuits is no longer applicable to new generations. The Catholic Church will survive, as will other denominations but persecution is always behind the scenes and the communist, globalist, etc will never give up the devil’s war to divide and conquer all believers in God.
Maybe this is why Francis’ homily / eulogy said nothing about Benedict or his accomplishments.
50 years too late on that.
Yep! And the Holy Orthodox Church, too!!!!
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