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1 posted on 02/01/2023 8:53:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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NOW, THE ALL IMPORTANT QUESTION:

How environmentally friendly is the vehicle in question?

The American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy reported that Biden’s Hummer EV “emits more per-mile carbon dioxide pollution when taking into consideration its electricity use than a gas-powered Chevy Malibu sedan.” 

NPR reported certain issues with the scheme.

Only vehicles that cost less than $55,000, or less than $80,000 for trucks and SUVs qualify for the tax credit.

The average cost of an EV is roughly $66,000, which means few vehicles qualify for the scheme. Some vehicles listed on the IRS website as potentially eligible for credit actually fail to qualify because they are expensive.

Another problem is that there isn't an explicit definition regarding which vehicle is subject to that $55,000 cap and which vehicle is subject to a $80,000 cap. 

The IRS states the categories are based on the criteria for fuel economy for gas-powered vehicles standards, but these classifications seem arbitrary and confusing.

There were other problems with the information on the IRS website.

The plug-in hybrid Ford Escape was listed as having an $80,000 price cap for more than a week before the cap was changed to $55,000. The Treasury Department claims the original price cap was a typo.

You would have hoped the content on the website was reviewed before publishing.

But then this is the Biden administration, blundering is its middle name.

There are other issues with the scheme.

The clean vehicle credit is a “non-refundable” tax credit, which means buyers only get the full benefit if they have an annual federal tax liability of at least $7,500, which seems odd.

Some of the tax credit rules took effect on Jan. 1. However, others rules related to battery minerals and other components are expected to take effect by March 2023.

Hence, many vehicles that currently qualify for the tax break may not after the rules take effect.

The scheme has income restrictions, too.

A maximum of $300,000 for a household, $150,000 for an individual, or $225,000 for a head of household. The income limit is adjusted gross (AGI) income, not the total income. AGI is the gross income minus adjustments to income. 

Experts say that these restrictions unnecessarily disqualify a significant potential number of buyers.

Finally, the qualifying EV must have undergone final assembly in North America to qualify for the scheme. The claim is they want to boost U.S. manufacturing.

If that was the case, why didn't they restrict the location of assembly to the U.S. rather than North America which includes the Canada, Mexico, etc.? 

If foreign players are indeed being allowed, why not allow them all?

2 posted on 02/01/2023 8:55:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Green-energy is an ideological-political scheme, not an economic one

So it will rise or fall with the fortunes of the woke regime in Washington - and its ability to fund it.


3 posted on 02/01/2023 8:56:55 AM PST by PGR88 (, )
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I am not sure if I am Joe that I would be optimistic about the future.


4 posted on 02/01/2023 8:57:19 AM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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I would buy one of those EV piles-of-shit, for a $20,000 rebate. I'll keep my 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Supercharged HEMI V8.


5 posted on 02/01/2023 8:59:30 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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Then they must get out of the way and allow every player to compete in a free and fair manner which means no favoritism and no discrimination.


that is not how fascism works


6 posted on 02/01/2023 9:05:56 AM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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You will burn through the $7500 the first year of ownership and then when you will need to replace batteries you will burn through $40,000 more.


7 posted on 02/01/2023 9:10:09 AM PST by chopperk ( )
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hahaha. During the last cold snap it took my colleague’s son THREE DAYS to drive 300 miles in his Tesla. What a deal.


8 posted on 02/01/2023 9:18:30 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Several freepers got these in the past… maybe they can help.


11 posted on 02/01/2023 9:30:19 AM PST by momincombatboots (QEphesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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EV are not practical yet, especially if you live out in the country, in hurricane country, deep winter country or on a fixed income.


12 posted on 02/01/2023 9:35:47 AM PST by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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Because $60,000-$80,000 vehicles are SOOOOOO affordable to Americans who have been devastated by the war on the Middle Class. /rolls eyes

Which is why I was buying 99 cent cans of pasta sauce last night - still a good deal (the sale is gone now - a loss leader which I shop every week or few weeks if I can. They had peanut butter for 99 cents though now I generally buy the 64oz at WalMart - still not a bad buy)


13 posted on 02/01/2023 10:04:00 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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This answers the question as to WHY Musk lowered the price of his cars-—FORD followed.

NOW—buyers can still get the $7500.


14 posted on 02/01/2023 10:31:46 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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I Bought a $115,000 GMC Hummer EV and It IMMEDIATELY Left Me Stranded!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIXfp7pVFV4

After Breaking Down, Did Anything Else Break On My New Hummer EV? | One Month Update
You have to buy a spare tire and it cost $2,500 <— wow!!
See how much space it takes up in the bed. It also blocks your view.
https://youtu.be/ASF4Ka1MWK8?t=945


17 posted on 02/01/2023 10:07:08 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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